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Originally Posted by YorkieRini Since I basically hijacked another members thread but it was all good stuff and friendly. I did want to start another one, I guess this would be the appropriate place huh? Sue and others have their view on how a Biewer should be bred and I have mine. The point we can't seem to agree on is whether a you get a True Biewer as described in the standard or Breeding Yorkie to Biewer for because it has the Yorkshire Terrier name and to keep color. I have been on a quest to get a straight answer from my metor/breeder in Germany and the President of the IBC.
You can read how this all started in this thread...
To continue this awesome discussion; really I want to understand and hope to convince the others this is what we need to do to help this breed thrive..here's the last post on the thread listed above I'm starting this thread with...
Quoting Sue:
Okay, let me see if this helps or not. Please follow this link to my website. This is my Homer's Page. His mother is a yorkshire and his father is a Biewer, And Homer is a Biewer. There are pictures of both his parents for you to see. http://www.magnoliasmagnificentyorki...formation.html
Now, as the show rules goes(please correct me if I am wrong) the dog that has the most accomplishments is Top Dog. Well, unless someone can tell me of another Biewer that has more accomplishments than my Homer, he is the top Biewer Yorkshire Terrier in the US at this time. My point being is he comes from a Yorkshire and a Biewer and is a Biewer Yorkshire Terrier.
Irene we had conversations & you told me that your mentor told you that this breeding is exceptable to bring a Yorkshire female & a Biewer male to breed together to develop a new line. My Homer is the result of this breeding and I have 2 of his sisters as well Harmony who to has Championships behind her as well. Kendra I haven't had long enough to get her in the ring yet. I guess what I am saying here is that you DO NOT have to go back generations to acheive the end result a Biewer Yorkshire Terrier.
I will not agrue that fact that I want them to be known as a breed of their own. I have stressed this on many many posts. But as a variation or type of Yorkshire Terrier as many many variations of other different breeds have been excepted through AKC and other clubs. I believe whispersmom indicated several posts ago. And that you learned tonight at your confirmation class.
Yes, I think we have hi-jacked this post from Momofthree and I to am very sorry for this. I have emailed back and forth with this lovely lady in her quest for the right puppy for her and her family and I admire her for wanting to research the breed so she knows what to expect.
chattiesmom I have no reason to be angry at you or anyone else. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion whether we agree or not... I would hate for this thread to get closed as I feel there is good valuable information on this breed. |
Ok I will jump on this one. As a breeder of over 30 years that has been dedicated to not only perfection in this breed, but to eradicate health issues in my line. The Yorkie is a Yorkie is a Yorkie! There is nothing more glorious then a Yorkie blue and gold silk coat reflecting the colors off one another.
Now many people go on to create new breeds, obviously, so when they are created they form their own name and do not run off the notoriety of another breed's name. The Biewer needs it's own name, which should be Biewer Terrier, just like our's is Yorkshire Terrier. Because no matter what else happens, the Yorkie is a Blue/Tan dog. In over 30 years of breeding purebred Yorkies I have never ever had a tri colored dog.
The YTCA is the caretaker of the Yorkie standard, so it is not going to change without the members changing it. No way are we going to allow dogs with white to be shown. The AKC CAN'T change the standard, only the YTCA can.
I've looked at many pictures of Biewer's and they are cute little dogs, but their coat is more like the Maltese silk rather than the Yorkie silk. Also, the majority seem to be black. This doesn't take away from them being cute dogs, but the differences from them and a Yorkie are great, since coat color and texture is HALF our standard, this makes this an entirely different breed as far as I am concerned. Take Silky Terriers in consideration. They are just as similiar to Yorkies in a different way as the Biewer is, yet they are Silky Terriers. In fact I see a lot of pet Yorkies that look more like Silkys than Yorkies.
Biewer owners should take pride in creating a breed and promoting it, but take pride in being a pioneer and create your own breed with your own name.