[gemy]

I do have to agree. With large dogs and a protective breed at that, I want them in a crate. At least rescue folks can safely remove the crate from the car. Transport safely to the ER. And then the ER vet folks can handle, including shooting in a mild sedative to safely remove the dog.

I think that I am going to change my car crates to the hard sided ones, cause as Brit said the wire crates can buckle and end up with sharp/jagged points. I did see a beautiful full aluminum solid crate, the price was very expensive, but they did not make crates large enough...sigh.