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madpuppymills · 06-13-2012, 10:29 PM

Wow. That's all I can say, is wow. (for those interested, I am pasting my personal PM to her at the end of this post, at her request). My attempt at extending an olive branch with the hopes of garnering your support in the fight against puppy mills went right over your head. You obviously read it, but your perverse need to continually defend yourself against things that I have NEVER, said or even hinted at to you on this board or anywhere else, have made it impossible for you to absorb the reality. Seriously, this is bordering on delusional, and I don't have time for this, as there can obviously be no good coming from it.

I will leave you with this thought and then move on. I'll make it as simple as possible, and if you will please step down out of defensive mode for just a few minutes as you read it, you will see that it is not a personal attack on you. These are MY beliefs and while I do my best to share them with others, I have never, and will never call or refer to someone as stupid, selfish idiots for not agreeing with me. I save those titles for the people who really deserve it, the known and proven puppy millers.

I do not believe in breeding dogs for profit. They are not products and they are not stock.

Unless you plan on showing or breeding a dog yourself, the papers that you receive from a breeder have about as much value as the newspaper that you potty train your puppy on. Showing or breeding a dog is not something to be taken lightly. To those that do it, and do it well, it is a lifestyle, not a hobby. In addition, unless you have actually seen the mother and father of the puppy, with your own eyes, in person, you have absolutely no idea of where that dog is from or who it's parents are.

I know that in the midst of your little pity party that you are throwing for yourself, you believe that people like me are out to get you, to unfairly take away your means of making a living, for no other reason than we want to hurt you. Get over yourself. It's about the dogs and it always has been. Even if every single puppy mill and breeder in the world were all of a sudden to become top notch, humane, reputable breeders - nothing would change for the millions of dogs who are killed each year through no fault of their own, primarily because they are homeless. Shelters are FILLED to capacity with wonderful dogs - including purebreds.

While thousands of puppys are being bred and sold for profit each day, thousands are being killed because they do not have a home. Is that such a hard concept to grasp? Is it not something that you would find worthy of fighting for?

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my PM message to Yorkiemom1 earlier today:
Judy, I made my final post regarding this subject (Chinalee) about 45 minutes ago. It hasn't been approved yet and not sure when it will show up. It's not a horrible post, but definitely negative, and I have been sitting here ever since, wishing that I did not post it.
This is not what I came to this forum for, and this is not what I have dedicated my life to. Unfortunately, emotions take ahold and we (I, at least) can be easily driven off of my intended path.
I have visited your Rosehill website and while I certainly know that looks can be deceiving in this business, your operation looks to be both legit and reputable. My opinion will never waiver when it comes to breeding dogs for profit while millions are dying, but I also accept that because of public demand to "purchase" puppies, reputable breeders play an integral role in the fight against puppy mills by keeping these buyers out of pet shops.
When I joined in on the fight against puppy mills, one of my goals was to network with reputable breeders who have the same desire that I do, which is to end the suffering of puppy mill dogs, and encourage them to speak out against puppy mills, back-yard/and otherwise dishonest breeders, with the hope that we can put them all out of business one day.
Where I strayed from my goal/path in this situation, is when I felt that you were actually defending one of these dishonest breeders. I realize that you are only stating what you believe to be a legal fact, but it most certainly came across as defending "Loretta's" actions, and villifying the true victim. Instead, it could have been a perfect opportunity for a reputable breeder to send a message to the public that you won't put up with this. A private message to Chinalee with your concerns that she may have gotten herself into a legal situation should have sufficed.
So, I'm finished posting on this subject, I hope that you will understand where I am coming from, and that you will join me in the fight to end the suffering of puppy mill dogs.
Kelly Wood
www.madpuppymills.org
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Now, can you please show me where I, in this message or ANY post, even remotely said or hinted at the things you accuse me of??

06-13-2012, 10:29 PM	#96
madpuppymills Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: chesnee, sc usa Posts: 31	Wow. That's all I can say, is wow. (for those interested, I am pasting my personal PM to her at the end of this post, at her request). My attempt at extending an olive branch with the hopes of garnering your support in the fight against puppy mills went right over your head. You obviously read it, but your perverse need to continually defend yourself against things that I have NEVER, said or even hinted at to you on this board or anywhere else, have made it impossible for you to absorb the reality. Seriously, this is bordering on delusional, and I don't have time for this, as there can obviously be no good coming from it. I will leave you with this thought and then move on. I'll make it as simple as possible, and if you will please step down out of defensive mode for just a few minutes as you read it, you will see that it is not a personal attack on you. These are MY beliefs and while I do my best to share them with others, I have never, and will never call or refer to someone as stupid, selfish idiots for not agreeing with me. I save those titles for the people who really deserve it, the known and proven puppy millers. I do not believe in breeding dogs for profit. They are not products and they are not stock. Unless you plan on showing or breeding a dog yourself, the papers that you receive from a breeder have about as much value as the newspaper that you potty train your puppy on. Showing or breeding a dog is not something to be taken lightly. To those that do it, and do it well, it is a lifestyle, not a hobby. In addition, unless you have actually seen the mother and father of the puppy, with your own eyes, in person, you have absolutely no idea of where that dog is from or who it's parents are. I know that in the midst of your little pity party that you are throwing for yourself, you believe that people like me are out to get you, to unfairly take away your means of making a living, for no other reason than we want to hurt you. Get over yourself. It's about the dogs and it always has been. Even if every single puppy mill and breeder in the world were all of a sudden to become top notch, humane, reputable breeders - nothing would change for the millions of dogs who are killed each year through no fault of their own, primarily because they are homeless. Shelters are FILLED to capacity with wonderful dogs - including purebreds. While thousands of puppys are being bred and sold for profit each day, thousands are being killed because they do not have a home. Is that such a hard concept to grasp? Is it not something that you would find worthy of fighting for? ---- my PM message to Yorkiemom1 earlier today: Judy, I made my final post regarding this subject (Chinalee) about 45 minutes ago. It hasn't been approved yet and not sure when it will show up. It's not a horrible post, but definitely negative, and I have been sitting here ever since, wishing that I did not post it. This is not what I came to this forum for, and this is not what I have dedicated my life to. Unfortunately, emotions take ahold and we (I, at least) can be easily driven off of my intended path. I have visited your Rosehill website and while I certainly know that looks can be deceiving in this business, your operation looks to be both legit and reputable. My opinion will never waiver when it comes to breeding dogs for profit while millions are dying, but I also accept that because of public demand to "purchase" puppies, reputable breeders play an integral role in the fight against puppy mills by keeping these buyers out of pet shops. When I joined in on the fight against puppy mills, one of my goals was to network with reputable breeders who have the same desire that I do, which is to end the suffering of puppy mill dogs, and encourage them to speak out against puppy mills, back-yard/and otherwise dishonest breeders, with the hope that we can put them all out of business one day. Where I strayed from my goal/path in this situation, is when I felt that you were actually defending one of these dishonest breeders. I realize that you are only stating what you believe to be a legal fact, but it most certainly came across as defending "Loretta's" actions, and villifying the true victim. Instead, it could have been a perfect opportunity for a reputable breeder to send a message to the public that you won't put up with this. A private message to Chinalee with your concerns that she may have gotten herself into a legal situation should have sufficed. So, I'm finished posting on this subject, I hope that you will understand where I am coming from, and that you will join me in the fight to end the suffering of puppy mill dogs. Kelly Wood www.madpuppymills.org ------- Now, can you please show me where I, in this message or ANY post, even remotely said or hinted at the things you accuse me of??