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Originally Posted by madpuppymills  For the life of me, I could not figure out why you have such animosity towards the OP and this whole situation, going so far as to accuse her of being a thief. I get it now. You are a breeder and are just defending your "career choice". One quick look at your past posts, and the first sentence that jumped out off the page was where you referred to your "breeding stock". Oh yea, I definitely get it now, and therefore will be bowing gracefully out of this conversation. The only reason I became involved in it was because Chinalee had emailed me with her story and asked for suggestions/help. Chinalee/Karen - good luck to you and your pup. I have forwarded your information to organizations who are very successful with this type of situation. I encourage you to file a report with petshoppuppiies.org. "Loretta" and her unlicensed/illegal breeders are already on their radar and I know that they would welcome any information you can give them. You made a decision that others may not agree with, but honestly, it's none of their business, and please know that most compassionate people would be behind you 100%. Those that are not - well, it's obvious now that they have their own agenda. To think that someone would try to present themselves as having a high moral compass, yet can be so blind when it comes to seeing the forest through the trees.
Yorkimom1 - I won't argue with you about the responsibilities of buyers versus breeders. But will just say that for every puppy born to one of your "breeding stock", a perfectly healthy and loving dog is put to death. You can blame whoever you want, but the only ones who are not to blame are the dogs, and they can't fix this - we humans have to do that. Until you face the truth and realize that we CAN fix this, nothing I can say or do will mean anything to you. I hope that one day you will come to this realization on your own and decide to try and help make a difference. And, for the record, I had posted in a previous message that while I 100% disagree with breeding dogs for profit, I accept that it is a necessary evil and that the very few reputable breeders out there play an important role in helping us put an end to puppy mills by keeping potential buyers out of pet shops and off the internet.
My final suggestion - stop blaming and start making a difference. And oh yea, Adopt. Don't Shop. Ever. www.madpuppymills.org |
I can tell you I'm not breeder and I'm very much against puppy mills and bad breeders, but I agree with Yorkiemom1 and placing some of the blame on the pet buyer. So many are too much in a hurry, or they want the cheapest dog out there. There so much information out there on finding a good breeder. Sorry, but if you stop payment and keep the item you bought, you are a thief, and you have no legal backing for doing such a thing. I understand you are supporting Chinalee, but as many have stated, two wrongs don't make a right. You should also know that “breeding stock” is a term breeder’s use and there's absolutely nothing wrong with the term. I believe it's wrong for breeders to breed their "pets", if you know what I mean. Some people will breed any dog that they own, but a good breeder won't. She takes special pains to find dogs meant for breeding. It can be dangerous to breed a dog that you treat like a pet, and sleeping with breeding dogs, especially, can be dangerous. Don’t think that these people love their dogs any less, they are still their loving family members, but they also have a “job.” You need to read both sides of this, and not just put all breeders in the same basket. Just as anyone who has a baby can be called a mother, not all mothers are equal. I'm glad that you believe in rescue and I applaud your actions, but we also need to support good breeders who are breeding for the betterment of the breed, or the Yorkshire Terrier will die out.