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Originally Posted by wnalegria

Any contract that has stipulations in it could be considered a mentoring contract- IMHO If your contract states that any puppies out of this male or female will be placed as companion puppies are you not be mentored? If your contract states that you can not use your male on any outside breedings or the breeder has to approve who can breed too -are you are being mentored? Could be.

I have two contracts that state I am not to breed my males to 4 or 5 breeders- is this in the contract because these other breeders have poor quality dogs or because of another situation. Onlt the breedersof the males can answer that question- they wrote the contracts.

The original breeder of your male or female is not placing the trust in you that you will know the difference between a companion puppy and a show puppy at this time and that you may never. Many a show puppy is placed as a companion because we do have more requests for them then show babies.

IMHO- I want to see quality babies out there in the showring that have KLS in thier names- I want to stand ringside and see that baby out of my male or female strutting his or her stuff. I want my dogs to make a positive impact on the breed.

Do I intend to sit and stuff my views or thoughts down someones throat and try and run their lives. No thank you. I have a breeder at this time who has gone so far as to tell me where I can place my dogs on my website and what can or should not be on it. Why? all because they are on as co-owners.

When I was young and learning- Chuck and Fay Hudson, Archie B. James, Nancy Donavan, Carol Fencil, Joan and Janet, Zee Daricek and Ferdinand Rent and many more took their time to talk to me and educate me about this breed. They mentored me- when I had questions- I asked-did I purchase dogs from all these folks no- they did this becasue they cared for the breed and gave of themselves to someone who wanted to learn.

IMHO I think that some of us have swelled heads. Ww think that we are bigger, better and greater then those we think that are beneath us. We need to sit back and take a look at things. How much do we really know when we keep buying and placing or selling dogs because they do not meet our expectations. Purchsing A puppy or adult and it not meeting our expectations happens to all of us- but when I read of this over and over again with the same folks my thought is- something is missing. We have not learned from our first mistakes and keep making it again and again because we have the money to buy more and just throw away that puppy or dog.

It is suprising that by working with someone you often can help them learn about the breed and what is good and what is not going to help the breed. All it took was some time on your part and a genuine commitment. I am here for those who buy a puppy from me. I answer all their questions, I give support- I explain why I have bred or why I like a certain breeding. Will be the first to tell you when I don't like something. Ask anyone who knows me about my thoughts on Buster and they will tell what I do not like about him.
None of my dogs are perfect- and they never will be. Are they nice quality yes. I place with limited and full restriction on papers. Some of my dogs are dual registered so that I can also show UKC. I am not ashamed of it.

IMHO- I think that the dispute with Kim needs to be laid to rest. If this thread is another way to air dirty laundry then you need to stop. IMHO The family here at YT does not need to drawn into picking sides. As we have been party to before there are two sides to each story. The problems between Kim and her former client are their problems. They need to work it out and I am sure will work it out. Placing gasoline on the fire is not the way to get the situation settled.

I have NOT been breeding long and just started showing about 1 1/2 years ago, but what I do know is that when you are wanting someone to trust you with their hardwork it almost always comes with a contract and a co-ownership! Most of the yorkie show people I know have been breeding and showing for years, infact some of them over 30 years! The dog/dogs they are entrusting you with have their blood, sweat and tears! The dog/dogs they are placing with you are from their breedings and their hardwork, signing a contract and them remaining on as co-owners is a small price to pay! I also feel that the breeders have a right to state who they may want their dogs bred to or who they do not want their dogs bred to.. I also feel it would be their right to decide what is placed as a pet puppy or placed as show potential.. After all like I stated ealier it is their hardwork they are placing with you, they are handing you a dog that would take you years to accomplish on your own!

If you did not want to have the breeders stay on as co-owners or sign a contract with them, why did you not tell them that you were not interested in purchasing from them?? As there are many yorkie show breeders in the US..

As mentioned earlier I have not been doing this long, but I also had our attorney help me with my contract for when I place a puppy.. As I do not want there to be NO misunderstandings and if they do NOT wish to sign my contract they can purchase their puppy elsewhere!

Melanie