[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by carmen in nj

that is with the certificates they do send you one certificate a year, after that is more money, and yes, I do, I can't support an organization that is allowing something that was frown upon just like a puppy mill, just because a BIG name kennel decided to do it, now is an accepted practice, inline breeding, has always been done, behind the scenes now is ok, if you know how to do it.. what is wrong is wrong and that is why all the pure breeds are suffering. I am done with them. I will not support them anymore.
is just like I said an inconvinience truth..

Hold it, line breeding is not frowned upon, you do have to know what you are doing though. Line breeding is not the same as inbreeding. Frankly, I'm really surprised to hear you say this.

Line breeding is one of the best tools to use in breeding when trying to produce your own lines. Examples of line breeding are: Grandfather to Granddaughter, Grandmother to Grandson (these breedings are usually considered the best in line breeding), Aunt to Nephew, Uncle to Niece, Cousin to Cousin, and so on. Once again these types of breedings are NOT inbreeding. So just because you have the same dog more than once in your pedigree does NOT necessarily mean that your dog is inbred.

Line breeding is a way to double up on a line of dogs thus increasing your ability to become consistent in producing a certain type. Many breeders use this method for producing their own lines. You can often hear people say, “That looks like a dog from so and so’s lines”. Its because that person has produced as specific “type” of dog that is easily recognized from generation to generation just by looking at the offspring. It is these “types” that judges come to know and like so well and become top producers of Champions over and over again. But as with inbreeding you will be doubling up on certain genes and traits, although not nearly as closely as with inbreeding. Therefore, it needs to be said, that this is a tool to use carefully and in professional hands. It shouldn’t be done haphazardly by someone that isn’t willing to take the time to evaluate what they are breeding or to what they are producing. A breeder using line breeding should have intimate knowledge of their lines and what hidden traits may be awaiting them. I also believe it is very important to do as much genetic testing as possible when using this method of breeding.

INBREEDING

Inbreeding is the breeding of two closely related dogs. Father to Daughter, Mother to Son, Half Brother to Half Sister, and Full Brother to Full Sister are all inbred breedings. And they are the only inbred breedings. Anything further away than what I have stated above , is NOT inbreeding.First and foremost I feel I must state that because a dog is inbred, do NOT automatically make that dog a bad dog or of bad breeding practices or quality. Without careful inbreeding, by the founders of each breed, we would not have the breeds we have today. Inbreeding can be a valuable tool when used properlyOn the other hand when used carelessly by backyard breeders or puppy mills and people just in it for the money, things can go terribly wrong. .

Something that one must remember when doing a breeding of this type, is that you are doubling up on the bad as well as the good. And something that may not be seen in one dog (usually referred to as a recessive gene or trait) may very well become the dominate gene or trait in the resulting offspring of such a breeding. That is not to say however that inbreeding is at the root of all the genetic problems and behavioral issues that we are seeing today. You can have those same issues arise from careless people breeding dogs together willy nilly.

A true breeder that is really striving to produce the best quality puppies they can, in not only health but type and conformation, and are doing all the genetic testing that is available for that breed, could produce some amazing quality puppies by using inbreeding as a tool. The problem lies in the fact that we unfortunately have genetic issues in dogs that we have no testing for. So yes, when doing ANY kind of breeding, you are taking your chances. Being a true breeder to me means striving for certain goals in your breeding and being willing to take the bad with the good.INBREEDING VS LINEBREEDING