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Originally Posted by Taryn0405  
I agree with this. I love animals, in fact when my Dad had to get rid of animals in our yards that were destroying our crops/plants, or had to get rid of pests in the lumber yard, I would literally cry.
However, was it necessary? Yes. They would have destroyed alot of things. Like Gidget said, I may hate cruel treatment but I still eat meat, I don't wear fur or leather, however I do not shun those that do. It's their choice if they want to wear dead animal skin.
So, in order to prevent thise thread from going down a long slippery, and mean slope, I'll just conclude with saying there's a spectrum with reagrds to most things. Where you are on that is completely based on your own beliefs. If you don't want animal testing, that's fine, but remember its your baby that's the actual test subject. And on the other end, if you're compeltely for animal testing, then you'll have to live with the knowledege of what some animals go thru... |
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Originally Posted by gidget529 I guess we know different vegans. The ones I know are horrified by ALL mistreatment of animals. They also don't wear leather.
I applaud your enthusiasm against animal abuse. I just think we need to see all sides of the issue. Do you eat meat? Do you wear leather? These animals in all likelihood were not treated well and did not die a painless death for the products you use. I'm not throwing stones. Just trying to look at the whole picture from all angles.
Unfortunately, we do "use" animals for our benefit. I'm not saying we are right to do it either.
As for science, we still cannot kill a virus that has infected a body. Unfortunately, there are many things modern science cannot fix or cure, let alone figure out how to try to cure diseases without using animals. I have friends in biomedical research who are trying to develop treatments and cures to problems. We often fall short. |
No, I am not a vegan nor a vegetarian. I don't wear leather coats/clothes but I am sure I have a few pair of shoes that are leather.
I do not shun anyone that eats meat nor do I shun anyone that is a vegan I applaud them for their compassion and dedication.
I thought in another thread someone said they were a vegan but they think animal testing is completely necessary because they don't want their dog to suffer from eating an untested food, etc......I could be wrong and I haven't looked back yet to find it.
As I said earlier I grew up on a farm and I have eaten beef, pork, and chicken all of my life. I do not like the mistreatment of those animals any more than dogs but IMO I get a little more upset when it's a dog probably because of the love of my own.
I don't have nor do I claim to have all of the answers and I don't want to "go down a slippery slope" with anyone and I think this thread went in a different direction than where I meant it to go.
If P&G in fact still has a testing facility how do we know that now they (and all other big companies) are treating the testing subjects with more respect and dignity than they were previously-that video haunts me! I just wanted to make sure that anyone who feeds Blue Buffalo is aware that they MAY in the future be sold to P&G because it sounded like it was in the works..but I hope not.
I know some have said BB has caused gastro upset but I have not heard anything like that...I will have to research it more.
I am tempted to put my labmix back on Iams because he never had any issues with it but I am not going to do that...I am going to continue the quest for just the right food for him.
My yorkie Lucy is on L/D and that is for her health so I have no choice on that one and will continue to give her that as long as I am advised to do so.