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Originally Posted by gidget529 I guess we know different vegans. The ones I know are horrified by ALL mistreatment of animals. They also don't wear leather.
I applaud your enthusiasm against animal abuse. I just think we need to see all sides of the issue. Do you eat meat? Do you wear leather? These animals in all likelihood were not treated well and did not die a painless death for the products you use. I'm not throwing stones. Just trying to look at the whole picture from all angles.
Unfortunately, we do "use" animals for our benefit. I'm not saying we are right to do it either.
As for science, we still cannot kill a virus that has infected a body. Unfortunately, there are many things modern science cannot fix or cure, let alone figure out how to try to cure diseases without using animals. I have friends in biomedical research who are trying to develop treatments and cures to problems. We often fall short. |


I agree with this. I love animals, in fact when my Dad had to get rid of animals in our yards that were destroying our crops/plants, or had to get rid of pests in the lumber yard, I would literally cry.
However, was it necessary? Yes. They would have destroyed alot of things. Like Gidget said, I may hate cruel treatment but I still eat meat, I don't wear fur or leather, however I do not shun those that do. It's their choice if they want to wear dead animal skin.
So, in order to prevent thise thread from going down a long slippery, and mean slope, I'll just conclude with saying there's a spectrum with reagrds to most things. Where you are on that is completely based on your own beliefs. If you don't want animal testing, that's fine, but remember its your baby that's the actual test subject. And on the other end, if you're compeltely for animal testing, then you'll have to live with the knowledege of what some animals go thru...