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Originally Posted by aproctor  I completely understand this because I am not ignorant nor am I naive to the fact that some of the technology today and the way things have progressed is because of experimentation and testing on animals.
This is not all directed to the above statement but to others that have commented previously as well.
That being said I am just surprised at the (in my opinion) casual way some have said that it's all for the good of MY PET.
In my mind there should be NO animal testing - with the technology we have today you can't tell me that there is NO OTHER WAY?!
I am also a little flabbergasted that there seems (imo) to be more sympathy toward the treatment of cows and pigs vs. DOGS?!
I grew up on a farm and to me cattle and pigs were raised solely for their meat and that is the only way some survived back in the day - I think the way they are treated before they are put down is deplorable but I am not going to become a vegan because of that.
Cattle, pigs (with the exception of potbelly pigs) and chickens are raised for their meat and eggs............DOGS are domestic animals that are raised to be a part of a family and I treat mine as such and the thought that someone could have experimented or tested something on them torturing them just breaks my heart in half!!
It is not a casual subject for me and it never will be and I will NOT support a company that does animal testing on DOGS!!!
I honestly think it is all about money and that there are other ways to test products but it would be more expensive so they don't do it!!!
Everything in this world is motivated by money so no one can tell me this isn't about money-P&G is all about MONEY-of course they are they are a HUGE conglomerate and they own the rights to about 1/2 the products in your house-it's about MONEY!!!!
The mistreatment of ANY animal is just not right and to me THAT is black and white. There is no reason a pig couldn't be used instead of a dog-or is that not okay? My mother had open heart surgery and she has a pig valve inside her not a dog valve so......hmmmmm, I just don't know what else to say!?
I wonder if the pig that gave up their valve for my mother was tortured....
If a person was a dog hoarder and they had a bunch of dogs in their house in kennels and laying around because they didn't have enough room to walk around the house, if they had sores on their legs that did not heal this person would be fined and jailed......think about it! |
Wow. Not sure why the "I am not ignorant" statement was said.
I'm glad your mother benefitted from the procedure developed from animal testing. We actually have mechanical, porcine, and bovine valves. Each patient is evaluated, and the appropriate valve for patient and failing valve is chosen due to the individual evaluation.
I don't differentiate between domesticated and non-domesticated animals when it comes to animals giving their lives for another. Animal cruelty towards a horse is just as horendous (sp) to me as a dog. I'm not sure in the grand scheme of things how it is going to turn out for us as humans to put our needs above other species needs and feelings. There are some ppl who think you should be a vegan bc of how animals are slaughtered and cared for. Should they make such inflammatory statements to you bc you do not agree?
As I stated before, I am grateful to the sacrifices that dogs make for us every day in all walks - police dogs, cadavar dogs, drug dogs, rescue dogs, and the dogs that were used in cardiology bc of their similarity to human hearts. How many ppl do you know are as selfless as these dogs?
I'm not sure why this strong response was given, especially as I said, I am not sure who should be making the decision which animal dies, which animal lives, which animal gets treated humanely, which animal dies an awful death for my dinner.
There is this comedian who says we humans are very hypocritical when it comes to animal rights. Cute animals are deemed not appropriate to eat or be cruel to: otters, dogs, cats, bunnies, etc. Not so cute animals are appropriate to live lives of suffering and die in slaughter: cattle, pigs, chickens, etc. Something to think about, huh?