[Belle Noir]

Gracielove, I NEVER said "the person who is cross breeding for the true purpose of creating a breed may not even exist right now", so please don't misrepresent my words.
In fact, if you have read my posts, I have pointed out again and again where there ARE people that are cross breeding for the purpose of creating a new breed.
I have pointed out the Labradoodle, the Cockapoo, the Canis Panther, the Shiloh Shepherd and even several cross breeds that have recently gained AKC affiliation either through FSS or have been accepted into the Miscellaneous Class.

What I DID said is
"But IF there are breeders that are doing the correct health tests for the parent breeds, and IF they have iron clad contracts that rivals anything thing that a reputable breeder may use, and IF they guarantee the health on their pups the way a reputable breeder would, I cannot say that they are NOT reputable, just because they are crossing their dogs for a market.
YES DD breeders like this WOULD be few and far inbetween. I confess I do not know anyone that meets this criteria."

THIS was in regards to the designer dogs, and I would assume that as I had pointed out both the cockapoo and the labradoodle, that people would be cognizant of the fact that I was NOT referring to those two DD crosses.
I would also add that I meant I do not PERSONALLY know anyone crossbreeding any dogs. I can honestly say I do not know anyone that is breeding English Pointers with the express purpose of bettering the breed, and that statement would still hold true, as I do not personally know anyone that is breeding English Pointers, reputable, ethical or otherwise.

There are two salient points to this debate. First is the question brought up by the OP, which was
"However, is it really impossible to find some breeder who has been cross breeding certain breed for long enough time(invest enough time educating oneself to insure quality of mixed breed) to be not considered as unethical breeder?"

MOST of the people answered with an emphatic no, they are and will always be unethical, simply because they are cross breeding dogs.
When the hypothesis of a DD breeder that is doing all the correct and needed tests of the parent breeds was brought up, again, the answer was an emphatic no, they will always be unethical and disreputable because they are breeding crossbred, no matter what kind of tests, no matter what kind of contract, no matter what kind of guarantee, because the pups they produce are not being produced to better the breed.

Someone brought up that all breeds had to come from somewhere, and all our dogs are crossbreeds to some extent in the beginning history of our breeds, and the reply given was that the cross breeders are not working towards a breed goal, and that the AKC isn't recognizing crossbreeds.

To which I pointed out the different cross breeds that are working toward breed recognition, as well as breeds that fairly recently were crossbreds that have gained recognition of some kind within the AKC.

And this is why, yes, I have an issue with "absolute statements", especially when a little bit of google shows the inaccuracy of those absolute statements.
But again, please do not misrepresent what I say. People can "dare" to make any pronouncement they care to. I am not one to quash intellectual debate. However, when one is making absolute statements, there is always going to be the exception to the rule, and if one is prone to making absolute statements, one must be willing to defend those statements with more than just emotion.
And that is why it behooves anyone debating for or against a stance to carefully consider the implications of their words.

The fact is, IF I were a DD breeder, that went above and beyond in health tests, contracts and guarantees on my parents and pups, I have been condemned, because someone DOESN'T LIKE what I am doing, because 1) I am cross breeding, 2) my dogs cannot be registered (unless they're labradoodles or cockapoos), and because 3) I am not bettering any breed, (see point 2), which goes back to because they don't like what I am doing.
NOT because I am producing genetically defective dogs, Not because my puppies are unhealthy, not because my buyers are not carefully screened, not because I am a puppy peddler.. But because some people don't LIKE what I am doing.

And as for a reputable registry allowing these breeds. I already pointed out the Eurasier, the Miniature American Shepherd and the Russian Toy, which has the misfortune of being exactly the kind of dog people are looking for AND rare to boot attaining FSS with the AKC.

The rest of that is a subjective statement, and I don't see what facts they are based on. The AKC is only a dog registry. They have said that time and again themselves. If they can get another breed in their books that meets their pedigree and standard requirements, rest assured, they WILL register it. Otherwise the hybrid WOLF DOG breed they have accepted into their FSS program would NOT have been accepted.
Have you SEEN the FSS/Miscellaneous Class list?
Close to 60 breeds, and several I can anticipate a lot of potential for abuse. Specifically the Coton de Tulear and Bolognese (both small white and fluffy!!!), the Russian Terrier (small and feathered almost like a Papillon ), the Dogo (looks like a white pit, but it's not), the Canary Dog (Presa Canario), and the Tosa (Japanese Fight Dog) among them. I also have some concerns for the Pumi, the Rat Terrier, and the Russell Terrier.

I HIGHLY doubt the AKC is going to say even though you have created a breed from these crosses, even though you have a standard and this breed is breeding true to the standard, even though you have a breed club, and pedigrees on this breed, you have created for 50 years/25 generations (assuming 2 years per generation), and it is recognized with the UKC, the ARBA, or the FCI, we're not going to recognize this breed with FSS status because people might abuse these dogs by over breeding them.

@Ringo, in that link, did you see this? "I don't regret the dog, not for the purpose I bred it for," Wally Conron tells Paw Nation, "I regret all the people who got on the bandwagon willy-nilly. People who are breeding poodle crosses for the money, who have no concern for parentage."

It's not the dogs, it's the crazed DD GREEDERS that he has a problem with.
And that is where I think we all agree. There are far too many people breeding these designer dogs for the money, and most of them do zero health tests on their stock, producing poorly bred puppies, in terrible conditions and they don't care.
These people shouldn't be allowed to breed feeder guppies, let alone dogs.