I can't put a band bow in at all...it's even came out point to the back of her head.
Our bows all have french barretts and they are very good. I'm waiting on bows to arrive and this time we are trying alligator clips.
I'm hoping, they work great for us too. If not, I have lots of french barretts to change them out
I'll let you know how they work for us after we give them a try.