I really like Nina Ottosman's toys, and have found them superior to similar toys.
Thor is not super-persistent with figuring stuff out, so I had to help him to keep him interested in his N.O. toy, and now he can get all the treats out in about ten minutes. That's really his maximum level of patience, though. He is unusual in that he doesn't like bones or anything that doesn't yield its treasures up right away. I think another dog would stay engaged for at least 30 minutes.
These toys are also good because they give the dog a mental workout.
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