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Originally Posted by MyLovelyNiko  I appreciate your opinion but I would have to say that you have NO IDEA what you are speaking of. Everyone has a different experience and expect different things from someone that will impact their lives forever. If you do not talk to your breeder about everything, then that's your personal preference. I like to be well informed... and if I were expecting a child I would do the same with my doctor, midwife, lactation specialist, etc. Why? Because to me, my "pup" is my child esp. considering the fact that I do not have children. Niko will forever be a part of my life, long after his is over. I am committed to him and his welfare. The first thing I would like to mention is things had began "appearing" shady WAY before a death in a family. If you had an issue with what I said here then why did you not mention it in the PM you sent? I have no problem with people sharing their opinion but what does irk me is when they are NOT informed enough to make a meaningful argument about the situation. (Perhaps, I did not reveal enough details or maybe wasn't specific enough...needless to say, I don't have the time or energy to type the entire "courtship" on a public forum.) I came here merely for suggestions and information. I quickly typed up what was happening at that moment. And if a breeder says that you can call anytime, I wouldn't think me calling once or twice a week would be worrisome. In fact, I would thank the heavens for blessing me with someone who cares to hear about their pup's development...you and I differ and there is nothing wrong with that. But as I mentioned before, the pup WAS NOT CARGO. I didn't even go near the cargo section to pick him up and was well informed about his condition throughout the duration of his flight, even when they arrived a tad earlier than I expected. He received Nutri-Cal as soon as I got him.
And of course I was worried about the condition of the pup...why else would I call her for a weekly update? Ask about how she is socializing him with various "types" of people. (Women, men, children, etc.) Why else would I ask about the feeding schedule and type of food, and shot records, and vet visits. I CARE...if I didn't I wouldn't waste time searching yorkietalk about various information...there would be no point. Yes, the pup came at 10 weeks but I am not going to reject the pup that I fell in love with to run away from the breeder b/c of a 2 week difference. If she didn't want him of course I will take him. There are plenty of people that have gotten pups @ 8 wks. I shouldn't be the "bad guy" because of my breeders decision.
And as far as priorities are concerned...please don't disrespect me by saying they are misplaced. YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE...YOU WOULDN'T KNOW ME IF I WALKED UP AND SHOOK YOUR HAND. That was rude, and for someone to be so highly regarded on YT, that took me by surprise. I pray you well, not sure if I will continue to be on this site, I have done nothing wrong to deserve talk like that, and hurt my feelings, it did. But I can assure you regardless of my status here, Niko will be well taken care of.
THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HAVE BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE AND HELPFUL INCLUDING FIDebra. I TRULY APPRECIATE IT! |
You certainly have misread/misinterpreted and even MISPOKE quite a bit here! This is a forum where you are bound to get differing responses when you ASK for advice. Many will always just commensurate with the poster and tell you what you want to hear. I tried to be fair to
both the buyer & seller. You asked if you were being too needy and in your face. You asked for input. I tried to word it as carefully as I could. You said, "I mean how do you begin to explain the
pain and violation you feel when someone you trust with a life...your puppy's life begins to act so
bizarre?" and I just still do not see anything that I would classify as bizarre or anything that should have made you feel such "pain and violation." If there were more "bizarre" actions, I would have thought they would have made the cut in your synopsis.
First of all --
I HAVE NEVER SENT YOU A PM as you said in your post! Are you confusing me with someone else or what? I double-checked to make sure -- but NO PMs to you ever! I have also NOT disrespected you or made any of the insinuations you accuse me of.
With the exception of questioning the pup traveling in the cabin without an escort, I ONLY replied to things you said. I did ask for the name of the airline and the service you said your pup was provided as that would be a WONDERFUL option for those needing to ship a pup. You did not answer that. Perhaps I should have said luggage instead of cargo? I cannot find any airlines offering to fly unaccompanied dogs in the pasenger cabin as you said. I am not saying it didn't happen -- I just wanted to know which airline was providing this service. I know there are several escort services, but you did not say they were using one of those.
As I mentioned, I only had what YOU said to go on when formulating my reply to you. First you said, "I have spent
hours on the phone with her. Shared
tons of email, almost on a
daily basis." but now you say, "I wouldn't think me calling once or twice a week would be worrisome. " Big difference in the picture you are painting then and now.
I, too, like to be well-informed, which to me includes THOROUGHLY researching the breeder before I EVER make contact. That way I know who I'm dealing with, her practices, her history, references, what her dogs look like as adults, how she treats her dogs, etc.... I'd know how long she gives her pups the benefit of staying with mom & siblings, how she ships, etc. Being well-informed would also include reading all I could on preparing for the arrival of my pup. There is a LOT to help on that count right here (including a list of supplies).
I don't know why you think I had any problem with you wanting to be informed. I was trying to make the point that if the breeder had already particpated in first almost daily phone calls, then copious emails, a "plethora" of pictures sent to you, etc...that it did seem like she had provided some pretty intense communication. You made a list of 6 things that seemed to be leading to your "
pain and violation" --
1. she crates her dogs; 2. She's a member here & you found posts that scare you. 3. She told you she's trying to keep calls down for phone bill & you think she's short with you in emails. 4. You asked for contract & she told you they had a death in the family & she was attending the
funeral that day but would get back to you. 5. You asked her to send a blanket or toy and she said she would see what she could do. 6. You asked for a list of supplies & she has not sent it yet. (Here is a link to YT Puppy Care Guide which includes a list of supplies:
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...w-parents.html)
I just don't get "
pain & violation" out of that. I tried to tell you I'd be more concerned about the fact she was letting the pup go so young and especially shipping so young. I did not "make you the bad guy" for that NOR did I say your priorities were misplaced. I put all of the onus on placing the pup before 12 weeks on the breeder and suggested what
I thought the priorities were. My words were: "Concentrate on the things that are priorities -- like the age of the pup being shipped solo! "
I also ended my reply to you saying, ".
You sound like a person that will devote yourself to your little one as it deserves. Just try hard to set priorities of what is most important to your PUP'S health and welfare. That is what is important! Be sure to bring some Nutrical with you to the airport! Good luck to you both and I hope he becomes a special member of your family! " Does that sound like I am questioning you caring about your pup? NO!
You use some very emotion-provoking language --
"pain and violation ...act so bizarre... "courtship" ... really ashamed ... don't chew me up and spit me out ... don't want to known as the dumb newbie, or feel outcasted (sic)...
and now directly to me ..."
you have NO IDEA what you are speaking of ... NOT informed enough to make a meaningful argument about the situation... I shouldn't be the "bad guy" ... YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE ... That was rude ... hurt my feelings ... not sure if I will continue to be on this site,..." Don't you think maybe this is a little over the top? Maybe over-reacting a bit and just a little
melodramatic? I never said anything to insinuate you were uncaring or in any way not going to provide a good home for your pup -- I said just the opposite. I never said there was anything wrong with being well-informed, I did insinuate that expecting continuous daily phone contacts might be a little much. I do feel I am well-informed and HAVE A CLUE but I accept your right to disagree.
BUT I don't like when someone twists my words, says I say things I have not and even makes things up like this supposed PM that I never made.
If you really feel it is fine for us to have differing opinions, you're not showing it with the rest of your words. I have not said anything rude to you, I just did not jump on the bandwagon to bash a breeder I don't know without justification. She might not be a good breeder, I don't know. But to bash her for trying to taper down incessant phone calls and failing to send info the day of a family funeral seemed a bit drastic to me. But that is just MHO.
I do wish you & your new baby well! Nothing like a new Yorkie pup! So sweet, lovable and full of life!