By request of another member I reposted this here. I never said anything before as I thought this was common knowledge, & thought we were the stupid ones. We were discussing seizures in puppies & I replied with this.
Very scary. That happened to my pups. Noticed one was seizing when they were about 3 mos old. Told hubby to call vet, I was on my way. These were my first pups, & the vet gave me the liver-shunt speech, took him back to start blood-work, etc. I was a mess, but they had to keep him.
Got home, & my second pup was doing the same thing. Turned around & took 2nd pup. This was about 8 am in the morning...the previous night my son mopped the kitchen floor. He splashed pine-sol all over the floors & then mopped. He used almost a half a bottle. The pups thought this was great fun, & chased him around the kitchen, chasing the mop, etc. The house still reaked of pine-sol the next morning so hubby started doing some research online & told me he thought they had phenol poisoning. (a nasty chemical in pine-sol) I called the vet & told him what I thought it might have been. He said he would check into it, but he didn't think that's what it was.
Turns out hubby was right. Puppies so close to the floor inhale, lick & believe it or not absorb the poison right through their pads. Their small size made them more susceptible to the poison, as most folks would not have an issue, but then they don't have a son who didn't read directions. (Half a bottle of Pine-sol...sheesh!)
Two day emergency room stay for 2 pups, bloodwork, & special food for 2 weeks while their systems recovered.
My avatar shows both pups at 6 months old. My daughter owns one, & friends of hers took the other. They live only a couple doors down from each other, so both boys get to see each other almost daily, and they always bring Bentley over when I am visiting my daughter, so grandma gets to see them all the time too. No liver shunts, and they are doing well.
I understand the symptoms are the same, the liver can't process the toxins that cause the seizure. It's very scary, & emotionally draining. Either way the initial treatment was the same, the vet had starting flushing the first pups system out with IV's when I arrived with the second. At this point he thought it was unlikely that it was liver shunt with 2 pups having seizures at the same time, so I had to sign a lot of blood paperwork permission forms, and promise to pay contracts...etc.
In the end, the diagnosis was poisoning by Pine-sol. Needless to say Pine-sol is no longer welcome in my home, and the heartbreak you feel causing your babies to become so sick will never go away.
Oh, & if you check the back of the bottle, somewhere in the middle of a paragraph it says "Dangerous to humans & small animals" I'm not exactly sure, it took me a couple times to find it, (I have no bottles to check at the moment), but there is a warning on the bottle, you just have to search really hard to find it.
It just makes me wonder how long our dogs could really live with us, if we didn't poison em a little everyday with products we use unknowingly doing damage to them. Smaller dogs like our Yorkie babies are in way more danger than larger dogs like shepherds, etc.
*some of this post was changed to fit an opening thread, instead of replying to another*