[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

First, everyone, don't EVER call anyone 'stupid' here, ever.



I get mentally exhausted when people refer over and over to ethics on this board, as if ethics were born unto this earth right along with the amoeba.

So yes, ethics is whatever you choose to ascribe to. Because your set of ethics is *this over here*, it does not, by definition mean someone else's set of ethics is simply wrong....nor does does it mean a code of ethics is 'right' just because some people developed it. Ethics is pretty much the most subjective branch of philosophy there is. It's something you ascribe to as a group or individual, it's not fact. Also, codes of ethics change over time, so that alone is evidence of their abstract nature.

Def of ethics: that branch of philosophy dealing with values relating to human conduct, with respect to the rightness and wrongness of certain actions and to the goodness and badness of the motives and ends of such actions.



Yes. Women used to be prohibited from the vote, black people were seen only as slaves, rape used to legal, beating your wife was once legal, animal cruelty was once legal. There are great changes being made about Homophobia.

Is the color of a yorkie as important as these issues? *Shrugs*, I dunno. But yes, since all things are possible, I do believe there is a place for both. I don't know what that 'place' looks like, but it must certainly be better and more healthy than some of the ugliness that always occurs in these threads, yes?

Regarding the tri-color issues, it's disheartening when some people are compelled to runnnnnnnnnnn to opposite poles as fast as they can, locked and loaded -- rather than coming to the middle for some kind of consensus, acceptance, and real discussion.

Ann, I did not call anyone stupid. Honestly, we need a sarcastic smilie to use here. What I wrote was:

Too bad there are so many stupid members of the BRTCA and BTRA. They actually have the NERVE to believe that their dogs are a separate breed. Pray tell, where is the club for the reputable Biewer breeders?

in response to Tammy saying:

You won't see reputable Biewer breeders and parti breeders arguing because they believe that the tri-color came from the same line.

So, by virtue of what Tammy said, she's calling every member of the BRTCA and BTRA unreputable or a sheeple because this is their stance on Biewers:

The BTCA, Inc. contacted the Mars Veterinary in Feb of 2007 to see if they could help them with the genetic make up of the Biewer Terrier. It wasn’t until later in the year that they released the tests and we began submitting blood samples. After testing over 30 different lineages (100 plus dogs) to date, we have been able to show that the Biewer Terrier is a distinct of its own. Oct. 5th, 2009 the geneticist working with the BTCA, Inc. released the news that they had developed a breed signature for the purebred Biewer Terrier
Biewer Terrier History



Although the Biewer Terrier is a relative to the Yorkshire Terrier it is evident that they are not the same breed. After two years of working with world renown geneticists at Mars Veterinary, we have been able to establish that the Biewer Terrier is a completely separate breed with a genetic make up, unique to the Biewer Terrier.
Biewer Terrier Club of America, Inc.

Ethics is that branch of philosophy dealing with values relating to human conduct, with respect to the rightness and wrongness of certain actions and to the goodness and badness of the motives and ends of such actions. Yes, individual ethics may vary. But we base every day activities on what the general consensus of right and wrong is within a particular society. We base our laws on what is the generally accepted ethics within a community. We say, in this society, that it's wrong to murder, to do drugs, to drink and drive or what ever. But obviously there are people who don't believe that there is a problem with doing any of those things. If someone were to kill another person, would we turn a blind eye to it and say "Oh, it's ok because he doesn't believe that what he did was wrong"? No we don't. That's what I mean by ethics is not a sliding scale. We don't get away with it because we only murdered one person and that wasn't as bad as that guy over there who murdered two.

Now, I truly am DONE with this thread.