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Originally Posted by 107barney

I never said there was a macroscopic shunt in MVD. I said that MVD is microscopic shunting. Dogs with shunts have the same microscopic features of the liver as MVD dogs. The absence of a macroscopic shunt is the difference between the two. Dogs also can have both.

You said that the liver can be small with LS and I was pointing out that the liver can be small in MVD as well as LS. That is not a symptom, it is a clinical sign that is observed during diagnostic testing.

This dog may not even have a single shunt as her BATs are not astronomically high like some cases I've seen on here where people do not take their dogs into surgery to try to help them. So, yeah, it may depend on who one reads if you want to be technical about the microscopic landscape of the liver, but more importantly it depends on what one does to help their dog and since I have one of the most successfully managed MVD dogs on this board, I will keep sharing her story for those who want to hear it or who can benefit from knowing it.