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Old 12-30-2010, 04:17 AM   #203
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I think I have remained very temperant -- I have exercised self-control when I have been accused of saying things I did not say, when my words are twisted, when the thread has been hijacked over and over with sometimes very false information having nothing to do with the discussion, sometimes irelevant information, and sometimes ... I am not sure what. I tried to explain to you that no one was calling you a sucker. I did that in caps to get specific attention to what I thought was the most important message to you in my post. I forget that internet thing about caps = yelling which I wish they had never started. I did think it was only frowned on if you use caps for your whole post. That was the only time I ever saw anyone complain.
Debra, when I responded to some things you said - I quoted you verbatim, I didn't twist your words -- so accusing me or anyone else for that matter, seems like a way to deflect what was actually said. What you typed is still right there. I think what you seem to be so angry about is the way *I* (and others) intrepreted what was typed. And that was (and is) my interpretation, not yours.

Btw, we get several Reported Posts complaining of people 'yelling' - so maybe it's more familiar to me bc I have to deal with those posts. That said, there are plenty of posts here where people mention 'yelling', and address it right there on the thread. It's not new. Also, it's been in the YT Rules for years now.

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The question was asked why they (partis) cost so much. It was answered with an unfortunate choice of words (the sucker comment) but I took that to only refer to those paying exorbinant prices and not all of the parti owners. sorry that you would think any members here would think that, let alone post it.
Like I said before - you are welcome to have your own perception, as are all other members here. Because you 'took it' one way, does not mean it's the right way, the wrong way, or the only way. I'm very comfortable with how I interpreted what was said .

Yes, it does appear that members here 'would think that' -- since it's posted and is the very subject of what we're talking about here (hello?). So no, I'm sitting here 'thinking' ..."hmmmm, self, I wonder if any members want to call anyone a sucker". I didn't have to think it, Debra, it was stated by another member.

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I would never presume to deny you or anyone else their opinion or feelings, I was just so hoping we could get a really good parti thread with BOTH sides presenting facts, historical information, and references and maybe, just maybe we could get it into a sticky for future reference. I truly wanted a thread without silly fighting, an intelligent sharing of information. I think I can do it without being personal. I can also do it without twisting meaning, words, or going completely off topic.
It has been a good parti discussion, imo. Because you want the thread to go a certain way, it doesn't mean it will. We allow a lot of leeway here so threads can take their natural course, and we'll continue in this manner. I don't view what was said yesterday as OT or silly, since the comments made were about partis - and that is the topic here.

An opinion is 'a personal view, attitude, or appraisal'. If you can give your opinions "without being personal", then great. But, my opinions come from me, personally....so I'm not sure how to give a non-personal opinion, as it seems like an oxymoron to me .

And again with the 'twisting words' or whatever - that is starting to seem like a control issue. So, I'll repeat this -- members can and *will* interpret things according to their own experience. YOU may view it as an altered meaning, incorrect, or off topic, etcetera - but please don't presume that the way you view things should be shared by everyone.

Please stop informing the members that they're simply wrong in what they interpret - it's their interpretation!

If you are truly interested in fostering discussion here, you might consider whether the way to go about it is to tell others that their perception or interpretation is basically just incorrect.
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