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Old 12-29-2010, 08:26 PM   #196
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Originally Posted by Raymond's Mom View Post
I will answer and my view point is from one who is not in favor of the parti color movement.
How they ever showed up in the breed is a question that can never be answered. But the fact is that they're here and people are breeding them because they want to be first, to try to develop something new. There are white german shepherds, parti color poodles, white boxers and schnauzers, etc. and all are put in the category of mismarks and are not desired in the breed. That's how most feel about parti colored yorkies. They cost so much because there truly is a "sucker born every minute". They cannot be shown in AKC conformation shows. The parti color yorkie and off color yorkie is a DQ in this breed.
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Originally Posted by shodanusmc View Post
Thank you. Same as the Cane Corso that i have. White, except for a small patch is a disqualification. Unless the standard is white, why breed for it? I agree about the sucker a minute. Why anyone would pay $6,000 for one that can't be shown is unbelievable, unless they show in ARBA.
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom View Post
Here are her exact words. When she says they, she is referring to Parti owners:

Debra, I feel very calm about this whole matter and have all day. However, you keep shouting using all caps (as above) at anyone who seems to step into this thread with a thought that differs from your line of thinking.

If you're asking for temperance, it would seem appropriate to give it as well. I haven't seen anyone behave 'intemperately' yet. I'm not sure how to ask people not to feel *personal* about their opinions/thoughts/feelings about a subject....so I can't really offer anything there.

All members are welcome to post on this thread. Members are also welcome to having different opinions, as I've stated innumerable times. I too am a member, and have the privilege of expressing my opinion on this thread. Thanks.
I think I have remained very temperant -- I have exercised self-control when I have been accused of saying things I did not say, when my words are twisted, when the thread has been hijacked over and over with sometimes very false information having nothing to do with the discussion, sometimes irelevant information, and sometimes ... I am not sure what. I tried to explain to you that no one was calling you a sucker. I did that in caps to get specific attention to what I thought was the most important message to you in my post. I forget that internet thing about caps = yelling which I wish they had never started. I did think it was only frowned on if you use caps for your whole post. That was the only time I ever saw anyone complain.

I wrote Training Manuals for a living -- caps were headings, caps were used for emphasis, caps were used to focus attention --caps never meant yelling in that world. But even if they were to mean yelling -- would that always be a negative? Couldn't you use punctuated "yelling caps" for emphasis, for attention-getting, for good things even?

I do use a lot of capitals, color changes, bold, underlines, etc. to show emphasis on certain passages in my posts -- always have and it was never an issue until here and now. Funny as I have been doing it since 2006. I will try to refrain from it if you want, but I find it breaks up a long post and makes things stand out that I want to emphasize. But I am not yelling. Is it only the capitals that are a problem? Can I still use bold/underlines & color changes? I tend to make long posts and without something to break it up or help in a quick scan.....they might get skipped (sheepish grin) altogether.

The question was asked why they (partis) cost so much. It was answered with an unfortunate choice of words (the sucker comment) but I took that to only refer to those paying exorbinant prices and not all of the parti owners. I do not think anyone would have tried to intimate that every one of our parti-owners was a sucker! (Exclamation point for emphasis and not for yelling or intemperance). I was pretty sure that you knew that too and that is what I said. But maybe you don't think that. If that is the case, I really am sorry -- sorry that you would think any members here would think that, let alone post it. I am not saying you don't have the right to feel that way either, so please don't turn this on me too -- I am just saying I am sorry you would have those feelings as I know that would make you feel bad. I hope I am getting this worded so as not to be misunderstood or misinterpreted yet again. Think empathy, sympathy, compassion, and genuine caring for my fellow YT member here!!

I never asked anyone not to post here in this thread or another? I have asked that we stay to topic and that we try to provide more reference than opinion but that seems to be a lost cause. I surely never asked you not to post! I definately have not asked that any stay away because of their opinions -- I asked that both sides be represented. I wanted a all-sided discussion not just one! So, I am not sure why you would advise me on everyone's posting rights. I don't want to assume anything by it.

I would never presume to deny you or anyone else their opinion or feelings, I was just so hoping we could get a really good parti thread with BOTH sides presenting facts, historical information, and references and maybe, just maybe we could get it into a sticky for future reference. I truly wanted a thread without silly fighting, an intelligent sharing of information. I think I can do it without being personal. I can also do it without twisting meaning, words, or going completely off topic. Part of the temperance thing I spoke of before. Temperance does not just mean being calm.
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