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Originally Posted by Mardelin  
In addition; let it be known that it is now a YTCA requirement to obtain CHIC # for a dog to obtain selected top dog awards. |
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Originally Posted by FlDebra I do not believe I am stating merely an opinion. I was speaking solely on the subject of color when I said parti's were not selective, that was clear. I believe that is fact and NOT opinion. [/I]It may sound subjective, but when those breeding parti's say ANY 2-3 colors and ANY placement is acceptable, then how COULD THAT POOSSIBLY be selective. You say that some parti-breeders do strive for placement. What do they use as a goal? There is no standard, no generally accepted placement requirement, no established goal for all to strive for. I never said that any breeder was not being selective in anything other than color. I hope ALL breeders are selective in health & structure (even though there are some who don't care in all walks). The subject though was COLOR.
When you say that show breeders are putting color ahead of health, that is opinion, false, and totally ludicrous. Those yorkshire terriers in the ring are obviously healthy, vetted, well cared for and most, if not all are OFA/CERF certified. All of the show breeders here do the testing and often describe removing a dog from their breeding program if any pup is ever thrown with a health or structure problem. Do you have an example of a Yorkshire in the ring that has not had their eyes, heart, and joints tested?
Just because some breeders were caught enhancing color does not mean in ANY way they or the majority of breeders put color ahead of health! I color my hair, does that mean I am not concerned with my health or that I put my hair color above health concerns? That is just crazy talk! You lose credibility when you use ludicrous statements like that. "Someone, somewhere colored their dogs hair so show breeders don't put health first" Really????  Come on! You have been so reasonable in presenting your side until this. |
Mardelin, What Selected Awards?
Yes, I feel health testing in the most important when it comes to breeding. But how truthful are those tests?
FlDebra, It was only a few months ago,on 9/14/10 that there were only 38 yorkies that were certified. Now you are stating all YTCA dogs in the ring have been certified...where is that documentation or is that just your opinion?
I also have to ask why the AKC is not even requiring (just recommending) bile acid tests with the Yorkie even though they have one of the highest % of liver shunt dogs in all the breeds? Where is the health concern there?
The following is just one small part of the two articles...
”Who would admit that their OFA certified dog became crippled or the CERF certified dog went blind? Not the vets, not the breeders, and least of all, the burgeoning health registries that were raking in $millions. OFA doesn’t care that less than 5% of owners ever re-certify a dog's hips or elbows due to expense, radiation exposure, or anesthesia risk. That alone makes a mockery of hip certification. But it gets worse. The priceless clear-hips certificate may not belong to that dog. Substitution has become so common that breeders joke about dogs that "glow in the dark."
HEALTH CERTIFICATION (1) PERSPECTIVES, by Barbara J. Andrews CERTIFYING HEALTH CERTIFICATION & TESTING, by Barbara J. Andrews