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Originally Posted by TammyJM A person should not think it's okay to make blankets statements and for those reading them to not get offended, hurt, angry (whatever their personal feelings are). When it is written, "a sucker is born every minute", to describe the type of buyer that is attracted to the parti, then yes, Ann has a right to type exactly what she did. She is not the one that took this thread to 'that' personal level so why are Ann's words being questioned? As for those that have championed dogs and your belief that they have more rights when it comes to breeding....are you referring to a particular show breeder within this thread or just show breeders in general? You do realize that there are YTCA breeders on Yorkietalk that have never even championed a Yorkie, right? When you constantly recommend this show group to those that are looking for a breeder, do you only give the names of those that fit your statement, "These breeders, in general, know how to breed and have created champions."?
I also agree with Ann on the fact that it has been discussed MANY times where the parti comes from. |
I never said they have more rights, what makes you think I implied this? They are the experts, but they still need to breed to standard. Is there another breed club that has produced any champions? The YTCA sets the standard and protects the standard, so therefore they are the experts. What is a breed without a standard? If a YTCA member produced a parti, this in itself would not be an awful thing, it's what she does next that determines if she respects the standard. A breeder who does not respect standard doesn't understand the very basis of purebred breeding. At least, Mr. Biewer was familiar with breeding champions, and it seems like he was trying to do more than produce pets.
As to your comment about breeders in this thread, I speak in general terms, not to specific breeders in this thread or on Yorkietalk. I'm confused by your statement of ,"You do realize that there are YTCA breeders on Yorkietalk that have never even championed a Yorkie, right?" What has that to do with anything? I am speaking, in general, for the club and it's standard, not individual breeders. I even said, "These breeders,
in general, know how to breed and have created champions," and yet you want to speak of exceptions? Of course, there are exceptions, but the YTCA is more than individual breeders, you're familiar with the concept, "The whole is greater than the sum of its parts"?
I have been very outspoken in my views of breeders who breed tinies, even though tinies are "standard", I do not believe in the intentional breeding of or for them. If a breeder produces one, it should be placed in a pet home, not bred, same with parti's, no one has EVER accused me of not liking their dog just because it was a tiny, I just think that suggesting this is hitting below the belt. I'm also tired of breeders who continually bring up WHO brought their dogs in an effort to make themselves look better.
I believe Fldebra started this thread with the best intentions; she wanted valid references pro and con on parti/tricolor. I don't know if she had seen the thread in the Library,
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...formation.html, but if she had, it's pretty one sided as to any information on the Parti, it's mainly links to Yorkietalk members websites. Several people on this thread have offered links and sources beyond breeder's websites; this thread should be about that.