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Originally Posted by FlDebra  I have to admit, it is difficult researching EITHER Biewer or Partis as there is such disagreement among those breeding them. For Parti's it seems that "anything goes" as long as the dog has white on it. That does not seem like very selective. Your examples are better than the ones I came up with on using the first 3 Partis to come up on search, but they still emphasize what is happening! Too far from Yorkie look & no consistency. You are right that many of those breeding yorkies, should not be breeding the ones they are either -- more selectivity is needed all the way around.
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1. I've seen that too and thus I saw Parti's and Biewers as different types of Yorkies...from what I have heard directly from many Parti breeders enthusiasts etc. that's the basic idea, anything goes-Parti simply means naturally occurring fault, partially colored in some or any way-yes, even if the color difference from the standard is just the appearance of some white.
**Sayign that isn't very selective-well that seems so open in determining "selective" did you mean in breeding standards period, or just the color result and basing that as selective? If you meant just in the resulting coloration-well I think many (I don't dare say most as I can't speak for them) Part breeders celebrate whatever coloration occurs so they do not exercise "selectiveness" there., thus I assume Biewers were created directly from Partis-they were the result (I though they were crossed out to another breed) of selective Parti breeding-apparently I was wrong there-?-unless you talk to some Biewer breeders whom swear they were crossed out...making them 'not Yorkie' so confusing. Glad Breezaway is here...
Isn't Breezaway great!? She really seems to know and have actually spent a lot of time researchign her Biewer history and concerning herself with where the breed is going-I've seen many other Biewer breeders with very high accreditation (championships notoriety n Biewer breeding) that couldn't repeat what she says correctly. Especially her honesty is talking about the genetic decline of Biewers because of their over inbreeding and Biewer to Biewer only practices, (thus my comments of the 'esteemed' Biewer breeder noted above specifically) many other Biewer breeders stress Biewer to Biewer breeding only.
2. Well, then again I only talk to those with selective responsible breeding practices 9that I'm aware of) but they do NOT discriminate by color selection as it seems many Biewer breeders do so. I mean responsible breeding practices like they only focus on pairing dogs appropriately, health, temperament, age, time between litters. minimum litters, many in fact are getting into certifications more and more-I think that certified (such as OFA) should be a requirement prerequisite to breeding period. If not you get dogs like my Elvis-again sorry Deb, I'd post links but you don't want stuff just directly from breeders-I'll post the links and references when I get 'em.