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Originally Posted by FlDebra  Point me to a VALID reference that says the maltese was definately mixed in earlier years!!! I do not believe it exists as I have found absoltely NO evidence of maltese being bred into the Yorkshire Terrier as it was originated. I looked -- I did not form my opinion out of thin air and we had some lively discussions 2-3 years ago on this subject. Never once is a reference produced showing this was realistically done.
Some have GUESSED MAYBE there was a Maltese simply because of the long flowing coats. That could also have come from selectively breeding the best coats each time over the years. I don't think you can use Joan Gordon to support this as she writes:
"Joan Gordon
According to many present-day writers Yorkshires were the result of
a number of breeds being bred together to produce the desired points. How anyone could believe, or even imagine, these early fanciers would have bred from a Dandie Dinmont, a breed with an uneven top line; a Maltese, a totally white breed lacking any blue or tan markings or from a smooth coated Manchester Terrier (originally a smooth coated Old English Terrier) is not being realistic." this is n excerpt from the Yorkshire Terrier History.
She does talk of "off-color" yorkies in her book but I believe she is talking about the chocolate, gold, and red pups that do occasionally get thrown from purebred yorkies. The genetic science to understand that is solid -- WHITE is not. I did not see anything about her having a parti. Do you have a reference for that? Since she does not believe white is a genetic component of the yorkie, I find this hard to fathom.
I am always open to reading any VALID scientific evidence that shows the maltese was bred into that early Yorkie. I don't close my mind to it -- but as long as the professionals writing the Yorkshire Terrier history say it is not so and I can find no evidence that it was, I think I will stick with the YTCA accepted history -- NO WHITE, NO MALTESE.
I don't even understand why you all want to change the AKC/YTCA stance. You all have started your own breed clubs -- many of them. In fact until you all agree on what the dog is supposed to be, it is difficult to try to bring the AKC/YTCA to your side. |
She does mention the tri color in her book, as shown below
"It is not unusual to find small white marks on one or more toes or a fine white line in the lower fore jaw. These will not be visible as an adult. A large amount of white marks on the chest, paws, jaws, or skull, places a yorkie into a tri-color classification and it is very wise to guard against this possibility. Yorkshire terrier puppies can be born of colors that automatically deprive them of the necessary qualities to become the proper colors of the breed. They can be born all black: all tan: tan with black points;
tri-color: black, white, and tan; all blue; bluish grey with tan points; and so remain or change to another shade of their newly born colors.