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Originally Posted by Nancy1999  You seemed to be confused about a few things, a dog does not win his championship by wining one show. If he's the only dog in a show, he doesn't win ANY points that go towards a championship. Also according to your next post, you seem to think we are saying that we think a puppy buyer should buy a dog that comes from champion stock, this is incorrect, I've been trying to say that a puppy buyer should look at the breeder and their breeding program, and what their goals are in breeding. If a breeder doesn't know what they are doing, breeding two champions won't even produce a good of an example of the breed, it takes more than champions to produce good examples, you also have to understand genetics and how to correct problems. Breeders who use lots of marketing terms are in the business of selling dogs. Good breeders could care less if you buy one their dogs, they aren't in the business of selling dogs. |
This I am not confused about
: anyone, good breeder or bad is in the business of selling dogs if they sell the dogs. Maybe they do hope to improve the breed, but at what cost? They are not keeping all their puppies, they are selling them...even if it's to support their endeavor to continue to breed/show/improve the breed/whatever, they are in the business of selling dogs to support that or whatever their reasons are. The only people NOT in the business of selling dogs are those that choose to give away their dogs. Yes, breeders do want to sell their dogs, if nothing else they'd be overrun with dogs, if they weren't they would give them away, all of them, each and everyone they chose not to keep for themselves. It's expensive to use dogs for shows, etc...breeders needs to try to recoup some of their investment...that's a fact of life/of breeding. Again, you are generalizing...speaking for all breeders.
Some people are interested in "champion stock" for their "pets" as ---- the breeders themselves are saying (essentially) "look my dog has won this or that, etc...so they are high quality" It's implied here
over and over again, that the dogs that win champions are of higher quality/closer to standard...if that's true...is it???....then why
wouldn't someone looking to buy a puppy be interested in it's lines, in addition to health, etc. Generally, speaking it is my belief that dogs coming from good stock generally produce puppies of good stock (though we all know not all the pups may be "good"), but according to people here if good stock doesn't matter, then it really doesn't where one purchases their puppy...can't have it both ways. either breeding/showing/etc matters or it does not.
And then it really doesn't matter how their dogs are marketed.
As far as my reference to someone's previous post about their dog being the only one in a particular category...I'm just saying that's what some people lead others/unsuspecting buyers to think a "champion" is, not that I believe their dog is a champion.
My whole point is no one should state that someone is a bad breeder for using words they might not choose to use. They might be a bad breeder for a lot of other reasons, but listing their pups coming from "championship bloodlines" is NOT one of the reasons. Don't assume a breeder isn't up to snuff unless you know them personally, have seen their puppies, spoke with them about their breeding practices, etc., etc., etc., etc.