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Originally Posted by concretegurl  I wasn't arguing any point other than saying no in FL it is actually illegal contrary to what you first posted...I thought it was important people know and report people breaking the law, especially on an issue so dangerous... |
I never posted that it was currently legal for children to ride in the back of pickups. Actually what I first posted was that I called the police
a few years back and
they told me at that time that there was no law against adults, children, or dogs riding in the back of pickups.
That was a true statement. That is what they told me at that time. I immediately thought about that, and decided to check to see if it was STILL the law. The law had changed and it took me a whole
13 minutes to find that law and make a post with a link to the law and saying that it was now LEGAL for adults 18 and over to ride in the back up a pickup, and then I listed the restrictions for children, saying also that those could be waived by local county law. I tried to edit the first post to ADD the new law, but it was over the time limit so I made a new post directly following the first one.
I posted the link and said that 20 states did not have restrictions about riding in the back of pickups. After
BOTH of my posts you then quoted just a portion of my post, leaving out the part that showed the police told me that years ago making it look like I had only posted: [Originally Posted by FlDebra . No -- not against the law. Dog, adults, kids, they can all ride in the back of a pickup with no seat, carrier, or restraint!] and then you came at me with:
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Originally Posted by concretegurl YES! It is against the law throughout the state of FL and most other states also (I believe Montana and Arkansas are the only states with minimal restrictions on both people in the back of trucks AND DOGS). |
Pretty much arguing that my facts from my reference were wrong about 20 states not having rstrictions, and making it look like I had made that previous statement alone without the explanation that the police gave me that information in the past. Then you wrote to me
again, saying ,
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Originally Posted by concretegurl Cargo areas refers to the back of vans, trucks with canopies etc...not open beds on trucks |
to
argue the FACT that I had said the cargo area was the open back of a pickup. Only the enclosed cargo areas were as you listed and we were not even talking about that. So now arguing over my terminology even though I was using a reference that clearly explained backs of pickup trucks are called cargo ares. You also wrote
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Originally Posted by concretegurl I'm sorry you took what I said as offensive or trying to argue I just read something different, and posted the link. . |
I don’t find it offensive -- I do see it as arguing. And I looked high and low through this thread and see
NOWHERE that you listed a link. I would be glad to read it if it was contrary to the one I listed.
Just to review, as I am sure we have muddled this for anyone else: "it is unlawful for any operator of a pickup truck or flatbed truck to permit a minor child who has not attained 18 years of age to ride upon limited access facilities of the state within the open body of a pickup truck or flatbed truck unless the minor is restrained within the open body in the back of a truck that has been modified to include secure seating and safety restraints to prevent the passenger from being thrown, falling, or jumping from the truck." However, those over 18 years old are permitted without restriction.
As for dogs -- I still cannot find any reference that actually shows dogs are not permitted in the back of pickup trucks. In fact, I found SOME county laws that restrict it by saying they should be caged or tethered by at least 2 tethers. But I found no state law on the books yet that disallows dog from riding in the back of pickups. I did read that Florida was trying to pass a law putting restrictions on dogs riding in the back, but reading through the Animal law at present -- I can't find it. It might have been recently put into law and I just can't find it, or they have not updated online. But it does appear they are allowed to ride in the back with double tether in at least a few counties.
You have accused me in another thread of following you around arguing with you -- I just want to make it clear in this thread that
I have only tried to answer your arguments with my posts. I started to feel like I could have posted the day of the week, and you would have argued with that! I propose a truce of a sort -- to at least alleviate the discomfort of others. Wish you a most Merry Christmas and Happy New Year as well. I hold no grudges over a difference of opinion.