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Originally Posted by RachelandSadie  Wayne Pacelle, President of HSUS says,
"I don't want to see another dog or cat born."
"We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals."
Oh really Mr. Pacelle? So then you are OKAY with thousands and millions of euthanized pets because in your opinion there should be NO domestic animal left? Hmmm... I cannot and will not support a group such as this no matter if Prop. B was worded exactly perfect and would really attack mills and pet stores in MO. i hate this group who spends all their money on themselves and not on the rescues and the spay/neuter clinics who actually do work hard to save puppies. this group is sick and against even pet ownership and wants to completely abolish pets entirely. i will not support them. Yes something does need to be done. this bill has raised a lot of great ideas in order to help shut down puppy mills, but it needs revised, redone, and to have a lot more thought and research into it before any Missourian is going to vote for it. and no one in my family or farming community will support any group that acts like HSUS or PETA they just won't. if ASPCA or AKC put forth a bill like this with much better writing and that made more sense and did something i'd be banging down doors trying to get voters.
What does need to be done:
Funding: we need the money to put MO dept. of agriculture out there enforcing the current laws rather than making new laws that we still don't have the man power to carry out.
Attacking Puppy Mills Specficially: We need a bill that forces all people with ANY number of dogs used in breeding to come under the current law or be fined or jailed. How can you catch a miller if they aren't opperating under any laws? You can't. we need the man power out there regulating ALL operations and not just regulating the law abiding ones.
Attacking Pet stores: you want to shut out puppy mills shut out their main source of sales. the pet store.
Attack the number of dogs: here is where i personally agree with Prop. B. no one shuold have more than 50 dogs breeding at a time that's crazy. while i agree dogs are property, that is cruel to have that many animals at once for the purpose of breeding them for money (dogs and cats only) that should change
Sufficient space and food and water. the current laws are set to already establish heathy food and clean water. sufficient space could be improved upon, but a Yorkie doesn't need 12 square feet of space to live all the time when it's in a transitional period between birth and going to a forever home. shelters don't even have that much space for their dogs...it's nuts. yes we all wish all bred dogs lived in people's warm and cozy homes full of giant living areas, but they don't. that's not realistic, so at least asking them not to use stacked crates and live in filth and have a little more room isn't too much to ask.
we all agree on one thing something has to be done! and fast! but personally i do not believe this bill is written well enough or well educated enough to work and i don't agree with the radical agenda of HSUS. |
I would like to see a specif post or link directing me to Wayne Pacelle making this statement.
Other than the links to the radical group that is affiliated with the puppymills of this country I can not find this statement anywhere.
I cannot for the life of me understand why you would support milling in your state. You have 2 dogs that are both from poor breeding that have had numerous health issues.
I come to this forum every day and see the sick dogs purchased from Pet Store that come from the mills. Most come from~guess where~ Missouri.
Why are there so many mills in your state? Because there is no regulations or the current regulations are not strong enough to be enforceable to shut them down.
Rachel~I think you need to become more informed and take note of what is being said all around you in this forum regarding the disgraceful treatment and the number of puppy mills in YOUR STATE. It isn't know as the Puppy Mill Capital for nothing. Missouri=Misery when is comes to Puppy Mills.
Do you know understand these killers shoot, beat to death, perform c-sections without vets or anesthesia on their dogs. They are crowded into cages and attack and kill each other. They live in filthy and with own waste their entire lives only to die when they are no longer useful to these horrible millers.
This is going on all around you. There are more mills in Missouri than any other state in the USA. Dogs are not meant to be agriculture. You have been sucked in by misrepresentation by lobbyists who's job is to suck you in to their way of thinking. They get big bucks as mentioned above to sway the uniformed with misinformation to stoke their agendas. The AKC makes millions from the mills why would the support this legislation?
I firmly stand behind the HSUS and what they are trying to accomplish. If the USDA can't apply the current regulations to the epidemic that is going on them something more needs to be done.