[107barney]

Crate training never worked for us but a schedule and positive reinforcement did. I think crate training failed because we had to leave the puppies inside their crates for 4 hours at a time and at a young age they couldn't hold it. It took us A LONG time to break our two older ones and it was frustrating. They used a litter box and now use washable doggie pee pads. Our youngest Teddy is still not 100% - but each day it gets better and he continues to learn. It's a test of patience for sure. Our dogs also go outside, and they prefer to piddle in the garden, but it's just too cold here in the winter and they cry if they see snow.