first i want to say Donna you have shown true compassion for both sides of this arguement.............Tammy im truely sorry for your loss..............for some others..........as my grand ma would have said...........shame on you..........you will get yours..........maybe not in this life........but you will trust me...........as for the dye stuff............it is true they dye.........i know people who admit it...........so yes SOME do cheat...........and it makes them the bad apple for these clubs............and the clubs instead of bettering (not sure that is a word...lol) themselves set out to attack each other.........yet another reason i dont belong to any club per say.............for as long as we live and im sure beyond our lives these debates will continue............we just have to agree to disagree....... both sides have already said.......they will not change their opinions or compassions for their views on the subject.......so in my opinion either come up with new information or the OP needs to have the discussion closed.
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