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Originally Posted by Woogie Man  OK...thanks for that. They do look like 'some' partis but most Partis I've seen photos of have much more white and hasn't everyone involved with these dogs described the partis as random pattened and the Biewers as banded with specific color placement? The only fair comparison would be to see partis from some time ago, I would think.
Also, I may be wrong, but aren't you the one that spoke with Ms. Gordon? Did she ever say 'parti' or just 'tri'. The terms wouldn't necessarily be the same to all people. I once took a litter in to my vet for tail docking. They all had fairly large white blazes and white toes. He marked them in his records as 'tri colored'. Of course, these dogs were standard Yorkies and the white went away with time. Is it possible that Ms Gordon didn't want to see 'tris' even at an early age as she may have felt that too much white, even at an early age, would not produce the coloring she was looking for? Just asking for a little clarification on this...thanks. |
The amount of "spotting" is the same.. Each pup has more than one spotting gene which creates the patterning .. Irish Spotting creates more of a belted banded pattern where the piebald is more random.. the Irish spotting is the dominate, then the piebald next in line, then the extreme piebald.
In each litter, you may have dogs with differnet patterns (spotting genes) Mr. Biewer (I believe) bred the ones with the Belted or banded pattern together to create the "type" of look he was looking for.. he spent years perfecting that look and it needs to be done by design.. If you breed any pattern to any pattern, you will not get that same consistancy.
This is the difference between the AKC Parti and the Parti colored Biewer.. the Biewer was purposly bred for many years for a specifi "look".. the Parti has not, until recently, had the dedicate breeders to "work" with their dogs in the way Mr. Biewer did.. he had a passion that gave the Biewer a special place in the hearts of the people who owned them.. that same passion is now being felt with the AKC Parti. We have dedicated breeders who want to develop this beautiful colored yorkie to be the best it can be, just like the Biewers were developed with the love and care by Mr. Biewer.
If you look at Biewer litters since their arrival to this country, you will already notice a remarkable change in their apperance.. we have worked very hard on health, ear placement, structure, size, coat texture.. many of us have not paid as much attention to the "patterning" piece as in the past ... so, you will see a variety of Biewer patterns now also.. many looking more and more like the "Parti" or Piebald pattern (spots) rather than the original belted, banded pattern that was eventually developed on the Biewers. One of the original Biewer clubs in this country had as it's main goal the perserving of this Belted, Banded coat above most everything else, but most do not share that drive right now as there have been other things to focus on.
The AKC parti could, if desired, get to that same belted, banded "look".. it would just take dedication in breeding for it. My AKC Parti Male has the Irish spotting pattern and looks every bit a Biewer.. I have Biewers that have more of a "spotting" or random pattern... I guess you breed for what is most important to you.. if it's a spotting pattern or whatever.. you can't do it all at once.
Diana
