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Elle · 08-27-2010, 02:20 PM

I don't understand why so many people look to YTCA as a problem solving organization. Where are the people that are responsible? This dog is not home. Why isn't this the future of the dog being talked about? Why isn't this women agreeing to return him, in due respect? That is what should be done. Try to salvage the pieces.

Something terrible happened, yes. Moving forward, what will be done about it? Years of ethics get dumped in the drain because somebody wants puppies? You don't get good offspring just because you bought a finished dog. If he was a great producer, would he have left the breeder to begin with? I'm not saying this to speak badly about this line. Being a champion does not make you a good producer.

There are many caveats to this nightmare.
Sure this is a lesson to people that don't know about back door breeding. But this kind of thing has been going on for years. Part of the glory of having a CH is knowing that you know everything about the lines. YOU know where the tail set is off, the flawless textured coat, the fearless wild side etc. You know the line better than anything else. You can't know about improving it if you don't know what's in back of it. Sure you can breed him to expect puppies better than SOME yorkies have produced. MAYBE you will be lucky, maybe. But at the end of the day, you are not getting anything better for "the ring" or the breed (which is the same thing) by doing this. Selling puppies with a champion sire will bring more a little more money. Only a couple more dollars, on a very good day if you're lucky. Maybe if you do a nice website and all that jazz.

But putting something in the ring is a lie. Most people that have the ethics also get the education to know the work it involves. It's not just mating a finished dog. I resent that statement, it implies that all we have to do is breed.

Who wants a dog that the breeder would not sell to you? What a dishonorable way to obtain any dog. They eat, breath, sleep. They live. They are not a material possession. Somebody spent more years eat, breath sleeping that dog. I wouldn't sleep another night knowing that my dog was being used like that. This is horrible. I'm sorry if the buyer was deceived in buying the dog.

This is why you have contracts. However when you have to look at a contract, you know it was wrong to begin with.

I'm sorry for Marshall. If the new person must keep him, he should be neutered. This is only right. Preserve the pedigree. There are too many dogs that need homes now. Let experienced people breed the way it should be for show prospects. This dogs pedigree lost the most important part. He's only one dog, what has be been proven for?

All champions don't have to be bred. Sounds like he's been bred plenty already.

08-27-2010, 02:20 PM	#25
Elle YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 881	I don't understand why so many people look to YTCA as a problem solving organization. Where are the people that are responsible? This dog is not home. Why isn't this the future of the dog being talked about? Why isn't this women agreeing to return him, in due respect? That is what should be done. Try to salvage the pieces. Something terrible happened, yes. Moving forward, what will be done about it? Years of ethics get dumped in the drain because somebody wants puppies? You don't get good offspring just because you bought a finished dog. If he was a great producer, would he have left the breeder to begin with? I'm not saying this to speak badly about this line. Being a champion does not make you a good producer. There are many caveats to this nightmare. Sure this is a lesson to people that don't know about back door breeding. But this kind of thing has been going on for years. Part of the glory of having a CH is knowing that you know everything about the lines. YOU know where the tail set is off, the flawless textured coat, the fearless wild side etc. You know the line better than anything else. You can't know about improving it if you don't know what's in back of it. Sure you can breed him to expect puppies better than SOME yorkies have produced. MAYBE you will be lucky, maybe. But at the end of the day, you are not getting anything better for "the ring" or the breed (which is the same thing) by doing this. Selling puppies with a champion sire will bring more a little more money. Only a couple more dollars, on a very good day if you're lucky. Maybe if you do a nice website and all that jazz. But putting something in the ring is a lie. Most people that have the ethics also get the education to know the work it involves. It's not just mating a finished dog. I resent that statement, it implies that all we have to do is breed. Who wants a dog that the breeder would not sell to you? What a dishonorable way to obtain any dog. They eat, breath, sleep. They live. They are not a material possession. Somebody spent more years eat, breath sleeping that dog. I wouldn't sleep another night knowing that my dog was being used like that. This is horrible. I'm sorry if the buyer was deceived in buying the dog. This is why you have contracts. However when you have to look at a contract, you know it was wrong to begin with. I'm sorry for Marshall. If the new person must keep him, he should be neutered. This is only right. Preserve the pedigree. There are too many dogs that need homes now. Let experienced people breed the way it should be for show prospects. This dogs pedigree lost the most important part. He's only one dog, what has be been proven for? All champions don't have to be bred. Sounds like he's been bred plenty already.