Oh Cheryl, you're a good mommy! I get them at a local store, Paws Around Town. They have a website,
www.pawsaroumdtown.com and there is a 1-800 number on there. Even if it's not on their site, they can ship it. Their shipping fees are only the cost of the shipping itself (not extra handling fees) and arrives quickly. Good luck. They can be so picky! I love the single ingredient treats like the hocken and bison, but i also love the NV treats!