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Old 08-11-2010, 07:18 PM   #77
Robin Lodal
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Originally Posted by Ladymom View Post
Did the vets warn you about the side effects of Phenobarbital on the liver? Over time, Pheno can destroy the liver. I'd really suggest you give Max Milk Thistle to protect his liver.

Canine Epilepsy - Using Phenobarbital to control seizures in dogs

MILK THISTLE

I started Milk Thistle almost immediately after Lady was put on Pheno over ten years ago. My vets were amazed that it was eight years before her liver started showing damage. When it did, I switched her to a homecooked diet for dogs with liver disease and added SamE (Denosyl). Her ALT returned to normal.

I use Marin. Lady gets 1/4 tablet once a day so it is very inexpensive.

Marin for Small to Medium Dogs (30 Tablets)

All things considered, idiopathic epilepsy is a very good diagnosis.
Maybe I am completely not knowing what I am talking about lol but what about a liver chew? Instead of taking DenaMarin everyday, UT approved of these chews for my Ginger to take (who has MVD). Would these be appropriate as well instead of just Marin?

Vetri-Liver Canine Bite-Sized Chews (60 Chews)

Vetri-Liver Canine Bite-Sized Chews (60 Chews)

Ingredients

Active Ingredients per Approximately 1 Soft Chew:
Gluta-SynŽ Whey Protein Isolate . . . . .1000 mg
Betaine . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500 mg
Turmeric Extract . . . . . . . . . . . . .100 mg
d-alpha tocopheryl succinate (Vitamin E) . 30 IU
N-Acetyl Cysteine . . . . . . . . . . . . .75 mg
N,N-Dimethylglycine (DMG) HCl . . . . . . .50 mg
Milk Thistle Extract . . . . . . . . . . . 50 mg
Artichoke Extract. . . . . . . . . . . . . 50 mg
Zinc (Zinc Proteinate) . . . . . . . . . . 10 mg
Riboflavin (Vitamin B2) . . . . . . . . . 1.5 mg
Vitamin A. . . . . . . . . . . .1000 IU (300 RE)
Thiamine (Vitamin B1). . . . . . . . . . 500 mcg
Pyridoxine HCl (Vitamin B6) . . . . . . .400 mcg
Folic Acid. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 70 mcg
Cyanocobalamin (Vitamin B12) . . . . . . .10 mcg

Inactive Ingredients: brewers yeast, chicken liver flavor, citric acid, glycerin, mixed tocopherols, propionic acid, proprietary blend (maltodextrin, sodium alginate and calcium sulfate), rosemary extract, safflower oil, silicon dioxide, soy lecithin, vegetable oil.

Supports:

Liver health
Phase I and phase II liver detoxification
Fat metabolism
Antioxidant protection
Glutathione production
Methylation pathway through SAMe production

Directions For Use:
Give 1 chew per 30 pounds of body weight, daily.

Since it allows 1 chew per 30 pounds, I give Ginger 1/6 of a chew.... maybe I am just missing the mark? lol


as for Mr. Max... you are SO CUTE! I love your widdle face. You need to let your Mommy love all on you! I am so happy to see that he is home and is doing well.
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