I waited till after the whelping was complete to post, because I did not want to interrupt the flow of this conversation.
I just wanted to say that this thread is the epitome of why I joined this forum a few years ago.
I became so emotional while reading this because this is what it is all about ! Members helping members and those being helped actually taking the advice given.
Mary & Jim gave of their time and experience freely and with such love and devotion to the breed and the OP listened and used this information with gratitude and did her very best.
As a former Breeder I can honestly say that we all need help along the way and it never gets easier, because each whelping is different and carries its own set of complications with no two whelpings ever exactly alike.
Congratulations Betty ! Please post pictures whenever you can, because you now have a great many who are here for you and those precious pups whenever needed.
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