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Originally Posted by Ringo1  Something is wrong with Lucy. The first time it happened - last week - I thought I was being paranoid. Looking for symptoms . . due to her MVD. I had accidentally given her some of Ringo's canned beef instead of her canned Lamb; realized it too late; and then fretted about it.
Later that evening, she came into my room with a glazed look in her eyes and her back legs gave out - just for a second. I carried her downstairs and the minute I sat her down - she was bouncing around with a toy. So I thought I must have been imagining things.
Tonight, we were walking a trail and about halfway through; she stopped for a second and was shaking. I thought she was scared so I picked her up and carried her. When I put her down - she laid down on the trail for a second and could not get up. It was like her back legs didn't want to work. 2 seconds later - she was fine. Pulling and tugging at the leash to go. She walked the rest of the way home and is now out running the yard with Ringo.
I have a call into her vet. Any ideas? Have I gotten complacent and giving her too much protein? But it was at least 2 hours after she ate. She ate canned Wellness turkey on top of her Wellness dry food which is a fairly low protein food. Her last BAT was only mildly elevated - her vet said she was fine and just don't overload her protein. Oh, and I have been putting a little milk thistle on her dinner.
I'm worried sick and off to search threads and worry myself sicker.
Sorry I'm rambling. |
I agree with your vet about it not being LP as dogs with LP lift their legs and hop like a bunny. My dd is LP 4 and she has gone on very long walks and never did what you described.
I keep going back to when you said she was glazed over and legs gave out in your bedroom that is not LP as LP dogs do not look glazed over and usually if it slips out they make a sound of pain when it is out of place and you never stated you heard her cry out in pain. Panting and shaking are a sign of pain though. I read everything when reading posts and this part did not sit well with me as it was not after a walk as I asked this and there was a glazed look which is an altered mental state not associated to LP. It could be due to 2 hrs after food but usually mvd dogs seize after food if it affects them. Liver dogs legs can go out prior to food due to hypoglycemia like this liver shunt dog below. He had a liver shunt repair done and is doing great now.
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I wish you had not walked her that is why I was saying not to so you could narrow this down sooner. You need to keep her on a strict protein of 18% as they can have neurological symptoms related to liver disease but I really doubt that to be her case as her bats are really low.
Neurological conditions do not always show up in blood work either but what I have been reading is wbc can be high in some cases of GME.
The only way to properly rule gme out is by a brain biopsy which will never happen unless doing necropsy after dog is deceased. So they do mri and spinal tap to see the fluids in the spine. The spinal tap is to check fluids and mri is to see what damage has been done to brain. There is no way he can say for 100% this is not the case without those tests. If she were mine I would not let her do walks, feed 18% and if she has another episode I would have her at a neurologist. I would NOT spay her at this time as if it is gme (autoimmune) any stress to the body could send her over the edge as well as vaccines. It is a tough call though as pyometra is also of concern since she is approaching the one year mark. I would not vaccinate as those can trigger gme as well. Something is not right and you need to let the body heal itself before putting any stress on her little body that could throw her off further. You need to be strict and narrow things down and see if another episode occurs. No treats just food only. No bully sticks nothing until you know what is triggering this behavior.
There are other neurological things in this breed like AAI, chiari, etc. It is not always GME. First liver is ruled out. I told you the episode with my friends maltese where ER vet sent her home with metacam as he said probably a disc issue so when ER vet said that