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Originally Posted by jazzybee445

I agree there are those who claim thier dog accidentily got pregnant because they were not watching, or taking the necessary precautions needed to avoid a situation such as that. And if i ever find my self in such a situation (betting i wont since my dog is male) i would make sure that all the puppies have a nice home, if not my own.

Originally Posted by jazzybee445

Ok so then my question to you is how the heck would my dog get out of my home and make it to another female?? I will NEVER let my little man out of my sight, obviously the hypothetical female got inpregnated because her owner let her wonder around the neighborhood unattended!!! or perhaps the hypothetical female lives in a home with an unneutered male! i feel your question is stupid, who the heck just lets their little yorkies run around, these dogs are so wanted, id be afriade someone would steal him. There is no way he would get out my house, and if the hypothetical female found her way into my home, and got knocked up and i was aware of it OF COURSE!!! I would help, you shouldnt assume things about a persons character. IM DONE!

Originally Posted by jazzybee445

I love what you have said! The governement has no right to dictate all the decisions that we as pet owners make, i mean to me its scary that they can even pass such laws, because its a slow transition to us not having any say as to what we can and cannot do any longer. There are situations where a spay or neuter surgery should not be done on a dog at all due to health concerns, its just not a one size fits all surgey.

My post wasn't meant to be cold hearted. I do feel really bad for anyone who looses their pup.

My point was to address comments she's made.

#1 - about never being in the situation where an unwanted pregnancy would occur. She has an unaltered male in a house with 2 unaltered females... you don't think that's setting up a situation for a unwanted pregnancy? The one female had a pup that they thought was a red leg... I don't think that dog should be bred - do you?

#2 - about people letting their dogs be "unattended" which wasn't the case and isn't always the case when a dog gets loose - like she was saying. Yes, it can happen with both altered & unaltered dogs but she acted like it just couldn't/wouldn't happen with her - but it did - and unfortunately with a terrible ending - not just an unwanted pregnancy.

#3 - I know neither one of you agree with this law, and that certainly is your purgative, but from what I'm hearing, it has more to do with "your right to breed" than the right of the dogs "not to be". If you really don't think this law is in the best interest of you and/or your dogs I hope that you get involved to find a better way of taking care of these thousands of animals sitting in shelters.

I don't think the law is perfect - far from it - but until someone comes up with a better way to help these animals - it's a good start.

Oh, one of the reasons this law came about was that someone left an unwanted dog at the shelter and unbeknownst to anyone - it had parvo! They had to *put to sleep* almost all of the animals that were there! It was HEARTBREAKING! They had NO chance at a new life. Not to mention that it took up ALL of their funds to clean the shelter and they couldn't take in any more unwanted pets!

What's this have to do with spay/neutering our pets.... EVERYTHING!

I don't believe the ratio of deaths from being spayed/neutered outweighs the the survivors. I know you and I don't want to be the ones it does happen to - but sometimes, sadly, it's just what was meant to be.