I have been very very lucky with lily
she is 12 weeks and is fully trained she goes outside when she needs and hasn't had an accident yet appart from her first 2 days home with us
I never used puppy pads but as have two older dogs(labs) i think she just learned from them that and the fact i was always taking her outside and praising her when she pee or poop. I would say she goes poop 2-4times a day max. I always took her out after she first woke up and whenever she had finished eating, now she just automatically goes to the back door
Good luck with your training i'm sure your baby will get it soon
yvonne
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