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Old 04-14-2010, 05:22 AM   #8
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Hi, this is my first post, I'm new to this site. A little about me, I'm a 240 pound Harley riding ain't scared of nothing guy. Until my wife talked me into a Yorkie. I have always had big dogs, Doberman's!! So when this little fur ball showed up I wanted nothing to do with him. Well guess what, he's dad's little boy, he bosses me around the house makes me play with him everynight, "don't tell the guys at the club about this"! Well here's the problem, about 2 weeks ago he had the runs and it was very dark brown. So we took him to the vet, he had a bacterial infection so 2 shots and some pills all is good. Then last week the runs return only it's normal color, again more pills and shots, seemed to be good until last night. He woke me up 3 times to pee. Then this morning we was throwing up, shaking and whinning. So back to the vet, he said his BUN was 50 and his red and white counts were a little high but nothing to worry about. The vet said he could have kidney damage. His diet is baked chicken breast in the am and at lunch, then science diet at supper. We were trying to give him the best diet we could, we figured if it's good for a human it's good for a dog. The vet seemed to think that is way too much protein in his diet and is causing the problem. They are keeping him over night and have him on IV's. The vet called and said he was much better after the first IV and was going to give him another on tonight and in the morning. I asked the vet if we could cure him, he said we need to manage his diet? So we are going to change his diet as soon as he gets home. There is a problem, he's a very picky eater"gets that from me" and he won't eat it! We tried he'll eat it if he gets hungry enough!! WRONG didn't work. So am I over reacting to this, I'm worried sick about him, he is only 2 1/2 years old. I have read on other sites the high protein in the chicken can cause this problem, but can be fixed with a proper diet. Before this we really have not had any major problems with him. We would really like to hear from other Yorkie people.
Thanks,
Dave,Jodi and Rascal
here is what i think - due to the diarrhea and vomitting the bun was high due to dehydration. It is true too high of a protein diet can affect the kidneys but if your dog had kidney probs the bun AND the creatinine would be high not just the bun so I think your vet is running a little wild with that. I would add a little chicken to his kibble in the morning and a little in the evening but keep it mostly his kibble if that does not work get some low sodium organic broth from whole foods put it in ice cubes and freeze it pop them out and put in a baggie and defrost one every 3 days and put a little on his kibble and mix it up as it will get him eating his kibble as i had a picky eater too but sometimes they are picky due to teeth issues or it makes him feel sick to his tummy so be aware of that as well.

The white blood cell count was up due to infection and red blood cell count being up makes me nervous this is HGE which is very serious so it is good they hospitalized him so ask your vet if he ruled out HGE as due to diarrhea and vomitting this would be my first concern especially since red blood cell count is elevated.

here is info on hge it is when the red blood cell count multiplies rapidly and thus shuts down the organs it is very serious so i would keep an eye out on this - usually the diarrhea is a raspberry jam like diarrhea as the blood is coagulating - I know you said no red blood in diarrhea so it may not be this or you caught it early

Hemorrhagic Gastroenteritis (HGE)

sometimes they have diarrhea and vomitting from the antibiotics so what antibiotic did they give you metronidazole? Is the shot covenia?

some dogs cannot tolerate chicken that have ibd and allergies so be aware of that as well

another thing that happens is if the immune system is lower then when you put them on antibiotics then take off without doing probiotics the infection if not completely gone comes back twice as bad as you are killing good and bad bacteria in the gut so the bad can take over if dog is not balanced so adding good bacteria in can help balance them back up

also diarrhea is much more dehydrating than vomitting

I would definitely have this little one bile acid tested as he could have mvd/liver shunt but with that amount of protein you have have seen seizures if liver shunt but could be mvd

Last edited by dwerten; 04-14-2010 at 05:27 AM.
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