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Originally Posted by red98vett  This is such a touchy subject ! I have to agree with the above post...some of those clips were old and spliced - I remember seeing a few back when I was trying to educate myself on what goes on out there.....some were just horrific.....
As far as PETA - many people think they're fanatics (and they CAN BE that's for sure) but - in defense of them - they bring many things to light that people may never have been aware of....
It's my understanding that animal testing has come a long way - I know it's still done  - but I believe many companies have changed policies and some even advertise they do NOT do animal testing. I don't want to be in a debate about this but do feel there is an upward trend towards NON testing and some companies are finding alternatives.
We can hope this is true right ?
We all have to realize - many products that come to market must be tested - that probably will never stop - but it's HOW they do the testing that's important.....I don't know if there ever will be a good way to test products....but I do know that in all the years it's been done - much of it is very very inhumane. |
I agree with this, and I believe that certain animal rights groups have helped tremendously in getting these practices known to the general public, and I applaud them for this. However, it seems like the ball has swung the other way, and they are having such a problem with creditability that I fear that people will ignore them when there is a real problem. I no longer believe what they say. I need other reliable sources, but it's getting very difficult to find the reliable sources. An informer can't "taint" the evidence to make his story look good, trust the story untainted.
Personally I believe that when a company says "no animal testing", it's a lot of hype. First of all animal testing is extremely expensive, so no small company will ever do it. Products can only be protected for a certain number of years under copywrite (that may not be the word) laws, so after a certain period of time anyone can use the recipe. So if the Acme company uses L'Oreal's formula for hair dye, they can say that they have never animal tested, but are using the same formula that was tested an animals. Some companies, just put a private label on major companies ingredients, and again can say no animal testing. For example, I've seen Target's brand of certain things on PETA's list that says "these companies do no animal testing."
We can do lot of preliminary testing using computer model, and there is so much past research that can show certain ingredients are safe and others aren't, but this changes too as new ingredients are added to a formula. I can't see a day when there would never be a need for animal testing with new drugs. Without animal testing our advances in pharmaceuticals would come to a standstill. Would anyone want to give their dog a vaccination, if it had never been tested on any animal? We are always looking for better safer ways to do things, and we should never forget how much animals have helped us progress so much in every area, and we do owe them our respect, but I believe we can do this by letting companies know we are against inhumane animal testing, not just animal testing. If everyone who loves animal's stops buying from companies that do animal testing, what clout will we have if the company does inhumane testing?