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Originally Posted by Pinehaven  QUOTE=mistique57;3023812
Pinehaven to have several conversation's and take this guy as his word is not enough really i have actually met these people here in england face to face so do know what they are capable of. I think i do know of the guy you mention as i know of buyer's that have purchased his puppies.
You seemd a little surprise when I showed you the photos of the traditional colored Alfie and you hadn't heard of the names that I had given you (the people who owned these dogs)
When asked why his puppies had white in them his answer was well it was a shock when our girl gave birth as she has never had white in her pup's before but they are popular in germany and america.
Biewers and Parti's were in the US since the late 1990's/early 2000 yet I didn't learn about them until 4 years ago - 2006.
He then went onto to say when his bitch had puppies with white in them he did contact the stud and the stud owner said oh it must be in your bitch as it is not in our dog,Yet he stated when he used his own dog she had traditional color pup's.
No, I didn't say he contacted the stud owner, because he IS the stud owner (of the traditional colored Alfie). No, I didn't state that when he used his own dog she had traditional colored pups ... where are you coming up with this story?
I said his traditional colored yorkies produced a litter with 4 parti colored pups, if you read his thread on YT, you'd see that his female Poppy produced 7 puppies in that litter, 3 traditional colored and 4 parti colored.
We then asked if the sire to the pups had white he said no he was of a traditional colour also but he did not have the sire at his home to view.
The pedigree he give's is not worth the paper it is written on.
Please recheck and read the link to Poppyalfie's threads, since you do not have the correct information. Or do you just make this up as you go along?
May i ask i don't suppose you can remember if the pedigree he gave you had his uk kennel club emblem.
Yes, they were from the UK Kennel club - I told him to see if he could get the adult dogs registered with AKC since it was a club that AKC transfer/register dogs from.
Only we have checked the one's given to us that have not stated the color parti in them and these have not been genuine pedigree's but fake made up by these byb putting differant breed's in.
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Well, yeah, it helps a lot ... helps me to understand where you're coming from. You're just not against those "Mutt Biewer" breeders, you're against the parti gene altogether. You seem to accuse any surprise litters with parti color as being deliberately planned and a scam. I try not to make my final judgements until positive proof has been given to prove one way or the other. |
You seemd a little surprise when I showed you the photos of the traditional colored Alfie and you hadn't heard of the names that I had given you (the people who owned these dogs No not suprised at all pinehaven as said we here in the uk are fully aware of our byb,if I remember rightly it was yourself who sounded quite suprised and a little bewildered. No, I didn't say he contacted the stud owner, because he IS the stud owner (of the traditional colored Alfie). No, I didn't state that when he used his own dog she had traditional colored pups ... where are you coming up with this story?
I said his traditional colored yorkies produced a litter with 4 parti colored pups, if you read his thread on YT, you'd see that his female Poppy produced 7 puppies in that litter, 3 traditional colored and 4 parti colored
I did not say pinehaven that you had said the above i said this is what the uk buyer was told when they purchaed off him so please re-read hun.
Please recheck and read the link to Poppyalfie's threads, since you do not have the correct information. Or do you just make this up as you go along?
I can asure i do have the correct information pinehaven i think it is yourself that has been duped by this breeder after all they do think they are good at what they do.I also do not make this up as i go along again rest asured.
Yes, they were from the UK Kennel club - I told him to see if he could get the adult dogs registered with AKC since it was a club that AKC transfer/register dogs from So then did he manage to get the akc to acknowlege his dog's as the uk kennel club will NOT. Well, yeah, it helps a lot ... helps me to understand where you're coming from. You're just not against those "Mutt Biewer" breeders, you're against the parti gene altogether. You seem to accuse any surprise litters with parti color as being deliberately planned and a scam. I try not to make my final judgements until positive proof has been given to prove one way or the other.[/QUOTE
Again i am not against the parti gene what so ever or what is being bred over sea's.
I am however against our uk byb breeding and selling a dog at the extortionate price of £1,500 to the people of the uk and saying they are biewer when it HAS BEEN PROVEN they have thrown other breed's in the mix to try and create what germany and america have.
The uk authorities DO HAVE positive proof of what the byb here in the uk have done.
So please pinehaven let other's speak and have a point of view and not just the one you want other's to have.
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