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Old 03-02-2010, 04:52 AM   #271
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Pinehaven to have several conversation's and take this guy as his word is not enough really i have actually met these people here in england face to face so do know what they are capable of. I think i do know of the guy you mention as i know of buyer's that have purchased his puppies.

You seemd a little surprise when I showed you the photos of the traditional colored Alfie and you hadn't heard of the names that I had given you (the people who owned these dogs)

When asked why his puppies had white in them his answer was well it was a shock when our girl gave birth as she has never had white in her pup's before but they are popular in germany and america.

Biewers and Parti's were in the US since the late 1990's/early 2000 yet I didn't learn about them until 4 years ago - 2006.


He then went onto to say when his bitch had puppies with white in them he did contact the stud and the stud owner said oh it must be in your bitch as it is not in our dog,Yet he stated when he used his own dog she had traditional color pup's.

No, I didn't say he contacted the stud owner, because he IS the stud owner (of the traditional colored Alfie). No, I didn't state that when he used his own dog she had traditional colored pups ... where are you coming up with this story?

I said his traditional colored yorkies produced a litter with 4 parti colored pups, if you read his thread on YT, you'd see that his female Poppy produced 7 puppies in that litter, 3 traditional colored and 4 parti colored.


We then asked if the sire to the pups had white he said no he was of a traditional colour also but he did not have the sire at his home to view.
The pedigree he give's is not worth the paper it is written on.

Please recheck and read the link to Poppyalfie's threads, since you do not have the correct information. Or do you just make this up as you go along?

May i ask i don't suppose you can remember if the pedigree he gave you had his uk kennel club emblem.

Yes, they were from the UK Kennel club - I told him to see if he could get the adult dogs registered with AKC since it was a club that AKC transfer/register dogs from.

Only we have checked the one's given to us that have not stated the color parti in them and these have not been genuine pedigree's but fake made up by these byb putting differant breed's in.
I Hope This Help's.

Well, yeah, it helps a lot ... helps me to understand where you're coming from. You're just not against those "Mutt Biewer" breeders, you're against the parti gene altogether. You seem to accuse any surprise litters with parti color as being deliberately planned and a scam. I try not to make my final judgements until positive proof has been given to prove one way or the other.
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