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Old 03-02-2010, 04:39 AM   #270
mistique57
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Originally Posted by Pinehaven View Post
We've heard the same story in the US from disbelievers including members here on YT - from pet owners to long time show breeders. All stating that the Yorkshire Terrier breed does not have the parti gene, or that Show breeders have never produced parti in their breedings. It's been proven over and over again in early writings - books, magazines, newspapers - that white yorkies (and other off colors) have appeared in litters from two traditional parents. Even the well known Wildweir lines has had more than a few parti's show up in their litters.

I do agree with you that the parti color was bred into the yorkshire terrier blood lines. It's been noted that the Maltese was used to produce longer coats on the early foundation dogs, like the Scotch Terrier. The yorkshire terrier became a breed in the early 1870's, prior to that they were called broken haired scotch terriers and in those early times, dogs of unknown heritage that had the look that was needed to achieve the yorkshire terrier, were used to produce the beautiful blue and tan, long coated dogs we have today. Only problem was that because of their unknown heritage, we have no idea what recessive genes they carried.

Maybe this illustration will better explain things.

Terriers from the 1860 Book of Field Sports by Henry Downes Miles, is Illustrated by DJ Watkins-Pitchford, these dogs are pictured running freely together.

Pictured is The Skye Terrier, The Scotch Terrier, The English Smooth Terrier, The Crossed Scotch Terrier, The Dandie Dinmont and The Bull Terrier.

Two of the 6 dogs pictured are parti colored ... One is the crossed scotch terrier. Swift's Old Crab was a blue and tan crossed scotch terrier, he was thought to be one of our early foundation dogs from the mid 1800's (1850 period). Eventhough he was the correct color, it doesn't mean that dogs like him, didn't carry hidden genes for parti and other off colors ... Who knows, that pretty black and white crossed scotch terrier in the picture, might have been Swift's Old Crabs littermate!

Feel free to read this article and please click on the highlighted hyperlink in the article that will take you to a book written in 1904, talking about white yorkshire terriers. Parti - Pine Haven Yorkies

Hope that helps!

I am glad we can agree on something's here pinehaven,lol.Yes i am aware of the breed's you mention and have done much reading.
I do belive the guy you mention here in the uk may not of been aware of this parti breeding.
But having said that he has had 2 more litter's since in the past 2 year's but is selling them as a yorkshire terrier.
No parti,biewer,splitter mentioning.
I also think he did buy one of his dog's from one of these byb here.
What has grinded on the uk is byb here are selling there dog's as a biewer yorkshire terrier with IBC paper's so how can this be we ask ourselve's.
England has not imported any biewer.parti,splitter here and none of the byb can produce any importaion paper's for the parent's of the puppies they are breeding.Nor have any pedigree for the said sire alfie but have managed to get a byb dog club to fake them some,The only recognised registration here is the uk kennel club.
So how can they sell as a biewer when they have no proof of this.
Can i ask can people that breed over seas can register with akc and ibc at the same time.
I Hope This Help's.
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