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Originally Posted by cj125  Wow guys - I have to respectfully disagree with you. First, I have to say how sad I feel for this lady's family. From what I understand she was a 16 year veteran working with whales. This is what she loved and she was one of the best at what she did. 1.She must have believed what she was doing was right or she wouldn't have stayed that long. Have you ever seen an accident? How many different eye witness accounts have been conflicting? To our surprise the majority of people never see the same thing when witnessing an accident or a tragedy. Angles of views - emotions (unexpecting - surprise - disbelief - fear) - interpretation of events - prior life experiences. It has been proved that you can take several people and put them in the same location and watch an accident and all of them will notice or see something different. 2.Case in point - Siegfried & Roy. People in the audience stated that the tiger attacked Roy. NOT TRUE! Living here in Las Vegas I believe that we hear more about this case than what's been put in the news. Roy survived this incident. His account, and make no mistake, he is totally able to disclose his thoughts, is that of protection. I'm sure some will say that he's only saying that to protect his tiger. Well, I'm sure that is true... BUT he also knows that tiger better than anyone else in the world. If that tiger had wanted to kill him - all he had to do is break his neck! The bite mark that was inflicted on Roy was one that is natural to cats. They pick their young up by the neck. It simply was not an attack. Roy knows those cats like no one else - especially that one. People in the audience witnessed actions that they were really unfamiliar with and have very little knowledge about. They interpreted the tiger's actions from their life experiences and not years of experience working with these animals. Another case - a couple of months ago there was a fatal shooting at the Federal Bldg here - where my son works. Immediately following the attack there were several witness accounts that said there were up to eight people involved. Guess what? There was only one! Wild - Domesticated Wild or domesticated - we all have some natural instincts. Don't get me wrong - I believe that wild animals are wild - but I also believe that they can and do make relationships with humans. Maybe it's just my beliefs but I see that many others are finding that out for themselves and documenting it. 3.You can't document that if you don't have that animal near you to interact with. 4.Performances I believe they do this for several reasons. 1) that is a result of learning to communicate with these animals 2) this is a means of comparing intelligence with us and other animals 3) this is a way to show what they have accomplished and bring in funding for continued research Captivity While research is done in the field, there are things that humans are unable to record and review about species unless they are watched and yes, sometimes experimented with and I don't mean cruelly. Yes, in captivity they have used the time to find ways of breeding. At one point I believe these was were an 5.endangered species (I could be wrong but the Panda is very good example of why they do this). If not for breeding in captivity we might not have the means to help this animal survive. Yes, man is a main reason for the extinction of most animals - all the more reason it should be us to have the means to make sure that doesn't happen. If there was a reason to be concerned about an animal becoming extinct - who do you think they would come to for help? You and me? They would go to the people who have been around them and documented what they have learned. There is a zoo in Omaha, NE called the Henry Doorly Zoo. One of the best. It was small in the beginning but has grown immensely due to it's research there. http://www.omahazoo.com/index.php?p=conservation&s=reproductivephysiology& u=globalprojects&t=tar Breeding 6.I believe they bred this male for many reasons most of which are probably not understood by us. One may be that this is a huge male and has remained in captivity without too many medical issues. I'd be interested in learning more about it. You're right in that genetics and temperament play a big part in breeding but I really don't see this like breeding pit bulls for fighting. This is one male. We don't know that this is his temperament as much as occurences in a prolong period of time. He's 30 years old. Prior deaths I'm not sure about the death in Canada. I haven't done too much reading on it but it sounds like there were 3 whales involved and that the trainer fell in the pool. I didn't see what injuries she had. As for the man that fell in the tank after the park closed... there are several accounts on that. Some say that he died of hypothermia first. Some others say that once he fell in the tank that the whale drowned him. They found his body draped over the whale in the morning. Either way - the whale did not EAT the man. If this whale had really wanted to kill this guy why wouldn't he just eat him? They eat other whales and seals larger than a man. In the case of this trainer, they reported this morning that she had drowned. They believe that the whale grabbed her by her ponytail and immersed her in the water. Again - tragic - but not an attack! Sea World has extensive procedures and precautions in place - but accidents do happen. There were only 12 trainers allowed to interact with this whale and they were not suppose to swim with him. There are reports that the whales were aggitated the day prior and that this whale was acting up earlier that day by not following instructions. 7.There are dangers in a lot of jobs. My husband builds and works on elevators. Doesn't sound as dangerous as working with whales but guess what? There are probably more deaths from construction than by whales. 8.I do hope that Sea World decides to put this whale in a larger tank. They do need the space but I don't believe that he can be released into the wild. 9.He's been in captivity too long. I do hope that Sea World continues it's coarse to learn more and teach us about the animals in the sea. Anyway, just my opinion. I had to give it.  |
I have to
respectfully disagree with you too
1. it's very sad that she was killed and I'm not saying she didn't have affection for them, but perhaps she felt superior like other humans, thinking that she had the right to exploit these mammals
2. two other foolish people in my book bringing animals that BELONG in the wild to be tamed for the purpose of FAME and making MONEY
3. why do they need to bring them to the city? they should go live where they live and study them in their natural habitat.
4. All for the MONEY
5. some are suppose to die off, it's evolution, most die off because of too many human mistakes
6. he was bred to bring more whale into Sea World for making MONEY!!!
7. True! But what is up with bringing u
nnecessary danger by dealing with wild animals for fame...remember the crocodile hunter?
8. I hope not! Let My Mammals Go!
LOL
9. True that! they all have been...whales, dolphins, sea lions, walruses, penguins, etc... and all the animals in the Zoos too.
Seriously though, you are very passionate about your beliefs but there is another side, an ugly side, to this animal abuse nightmare that you are not admitting.