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Old 02-23-2010, 09:19 AM   #28
Nancy1999
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Originally Posted by mommadog1 View Post
Well that can vary from breed and size, etc.. But they don't need any more than 22-24%, and fat really shouldn't be over 10-14%. Royal Canin is very high on both of those. (comparing to what OP is feeding, the yorkie kibble)

Something else you may not know is that RC was one of pet foods that were recalled, and MANY animals have died, before, during and still are getting sick. They may not use rice with melamine in it any more but dogs and cats are still dying from this kibble.

Most of the complaints I have seen have been renal failure in both cats and dogs. And lots of gastrointestinal issues!! This is just not a good dog food. I know it made Pennie vomit when I fed it to her.

Did you know RC is not even made in the USA?? It is from france, but also other countries (other than the USA) make it, there are a few plants, even one in Africa.

Not being made in the US the dog food is not regulated, how can they? They can't because ALL ingredients are bought from other countries like China.

The ingredients is full of garbage, corn, wheat, beet pulp (filler) and several other things that just aren't really good for our pets.

One of the MAIN ingredients is cellulose, do you know what this is? it is WOOD, yep, it is sawdust and used as a cheap filler/fluffer.
Here read about it yourself Dog Food Reviews - Royal Canin Mini Yorkshire 28 - Powered by ReviewPost ..It is considered a 2 star kibble by this site.

When you check out those ingredients, look some of them up. I have looked them all up..yuck.. Here are 2 more links that might be helpful as well.
You're feeding me what?: Just what IS in my dog's food? Part 4: Fiber
You're feeding me what?: July 2007 Parts 1-4 on ingredients is on this page.

You say the recommended amount is 22-24%, I'm seriously looking for a scientific link that says that. I have read that Yorkies need a little higher than other breed, not sure if this is true either. RC has 28%, but we give him green beans in addition to his RC, so I suppose that cuts down on the percent of protein. Also from what I understand, it's not the amount of protein; it’s the quality of protein that can be harmful. Poor quality protein gives off too much ammonia, and can damage the kidneys. I don't care for the "Dog Food Reviews", if you look at the credentials of the people who review; they have none. There is only ONE person who reviews each food, if they had some type of formal training in nutrition, they might sway me, but without any type of training, their words are merely words.

By the way, I disagree that just because a food is manufactured in another country, that it's somehow inferior, the French love their dogs, and dogs are welcome everywhere. I wish Americans had the same respect for dogs, and food. However, the bag I buy does say it's made in the good old USA. The OP is from Africa, so suggesting that RC is inferior because it's made in Africa seems really rude, we've been using it 3 years and there have been no recalls since I've been using it. Joey doesn't ever have any gas, and never gets diarrhea or vomiting. His teeth are in great condition, good breath, and his hair is very shinny and thick. I think some of the proof of how good a food is, is how well the dog is doing on it. I'm not suggesting that other people switch to it, but I don't think you should try to tell them to change from it. I think saying it's garbage, it really rude too. I'm doing the best I can for my dog, we have tried a variety of foods that he didn't do well on. I don't like it when people say I'm feeding him garbage. Just because your dog vomited when you gave it to her, does not mean that it's harmful, some dogs, will vomit after any food switch. I don't think switching foods is good for dogs, and you need to go slowly if you do a food change. I know some dog have problems with corn, but I don't think the majority do.

By the way, you commented on the fact that RC has beet pulp, the source you linked says,

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Beet Pulp, the isolated fibrous material from sugar beets, is another ingredient that has an undeservedly bad reputation. It is a very gentle, beneficial source of fiber that is not only generally very well tolerated, but also has specific properties that make it suitable as a source of nutrition for the beneficial bacteria that reside in the intestinal tract. The sugar is almost completely removed, what is left in the pulp is only about 1/5 the amount of sugar that you would find in a serving of carrots of equal size. It is also colorless and does not turn a dog's coat turn red, like urban legends claim. The argument that beet pulp is an "unnatural" ingredient is often brought up, but people who present this complaint seem to forget that it is also not natural for dogs to eat highly processed commercial products with a carb content of generally 40% and more, and a moisture content of only around 10% as opposed to a more natural 60-70%. Added fiber is required to make such formulations work for the pets who eat a dry diet. You're feeding me what?: Just what IS in my dog's food? Part 4: Fiber
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