Okay folks, this is a good discussion, but I can hardly read it bc there are so many mis-quotes and improper use of quotes (which I'm going to try to fix if I can figure out what is what).
Please, PREVIEW your posts to check quoting accuracy. If you don't know how to use quotes,
please ask for help, or don't use them as the result is not only too difficult to read - but makes it appear as though people typed something they did *not* type at all (and this actually refers not to just this thread, but is happening all over the board lately).
Thank you so much, it would be so helpful if everyone previewed their posts before hitting submit
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