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					Originally Posted by WinstonMom  And I have 6 dogs who allow us to live with them (and share their bed).  I have 2 females that I am planning to breed and my studly boy (who will be retiring soon).  The other 3, two are retired breeding females and one old boy is a rescue.I think that the difference between a good breeder and a bad one, is in how they sell their puppies and why they are producing them. If a sale is first and foremost on their minds, then you should probably run fast.  If they are breeding puppies for no other reason but to sell them, that makes them a puppy mill in my mind, whether they have one breeding dog or 50. I only breed with the next show dog in mind. There are enough homeless dogs in this world without me producing dogs for no reason other than to sell them. I have had people content to wait two years for a puppy from me and I have had others come into my home with money in hand, like it was a store and it was their right to just hand over the money and go home with a pup (they don't get one).
 I also don't know how anyone can properly socialize a pup that is living in a kennel.  Puppies should be exposed to the sounds and sights of living in a house, they should be comfortable riding in a car and used to the sounds and sights of the outside world.  When my puppies leave my home, they are prepared for life in a home, they know how to treat people and they are aware of their place in a pack of dogs, so they know how to act with dogs of all ages.
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  i really like some of the points you made. specifically, i like what you said about 
why they produce their dogs. 
i think it's reasonable what you said about ppl waiting a long time to get their puppy, like the person who waited 2 years to get a dog from you. but i also think it's reasonable for people not to wait so long. there are good reasons you might want to bring a dog into your life at a specific time. i think of bringing a new pet to my home as family planning. i consider when i have the most available time to devote energy and care for my pet. different things happen during different stages of your life. so i like to try to plan as best as i can.
