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Old 12-15-2009, 09:08 AM   #91
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Originally Posted by JeanieK View Post
I have never called show breeders, as a group, unethical, disreputable, etc. I have alwasy said that it is the individual breeder, not the group.

I have been in agreement with you, but now it sounds like you are trying to get me to argue with you, by saying that I feel show breeders are unethical, which I have NEVER said.
Nope...not trying to get you to argue at all, and that is definately NOT what I'm trying to imply that you "said." BUt you have made those kinds of statments about the YTCA as a group without distinguishing that it may not apply to EVERY individual member...

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Originally Posted by JeanieK View Post
I personally could not care less what the YTCA does. I don't want any part of it. I want to be able to breed my dogs with health being the first priority and conformation coming in about 3rd or 4th on the list.
Here, I see you doing the same thing, making the same type of blanket statement that you yourself are complaining about:

You complain that you don't like ALL Parti breeders being classified as disreputable BYBers. There are some Parti breeders that fit that sterotype...others, like yourself, dislike being classified as that....guilty by association. You are ALL judged based on the actions of SOME. Is that a fair synopsis?
How then is that different from the stance you have taken regarding the YTCA?
You state that you could not care less what the YTCA does and imply that the YTCA does not breed with health as the primary focus. There are some YTCA breeders that would fit that stereotype, but some that feel otherwise. Would that not also be making a blanket statment that encompasses them ALL based on the actions of SOME?

Summary:
You frequently mention how don't like hearing that "all parti breeders are unethical" because of XYZ reason. You don't like being unfairly placed in that category by default when that statement is made because those issues don't apply to you. Would that be a fair assessement?
Yet, you frequently express your disapproval of the YTCA and how you disagree with their opinions on the matter, their regard to the standard and their priorities in breeding. Are you not also doing the same thing then--making a blanket statement about one group regarding specifics that may not apply to some? What is the difference?

That was my point. I understand why you are upset when statements like "Parti breeders are ALL unethical are made"...but it goes both ways.

(For the record, I do not think that you believe all show breeders are unethical.)

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