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Old 12-06-2009, 06:16 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by Britster View Post
Boy, I've missed your posts around here.

Totally agree.

I think there ARE some responsible, respectable breeders out there who are not puppy mills or BYB and really want what's best. Cockapoo's have been around since the late 1940's (or early 1950's) and they've been trying to get accepted into the AKC for years. They're great dogs. My mom had one, she was smart as can be. Golden Retrievers weren't accepted for a LONG time either. They were a mix of some hound and something else, I believe. All dogs come from mixes somewhere and as long as your doing it responsibility, I don't see anything wrong with it. Some people LOVE the Labrador breed but don't like shedding or have allergy issues; hence the Labradoodle... which I believe is a true breed in the UK.

Now if you're just the average joe that says "Hmm... my pug would look cute with this Yorkie!" that's just dumb.
Just as an FYI - There are only two ways a dog breed can get into AKC. The 1st is through the FSS (Foundation Stock Services)of AKC. It takes a great deal of dedication and requirements before a new breed is accepted. In the case of the Cockapoo I doubt they ever tried to get into AKC as a new breed as it takes 3 different breeds to make one new breed before you can enter into FSS. Also the cockapoo is not on the FSS breed list. American Kennel Club - List of FSS Breeds.
Also please note the Labradoodle is also not on the FSS list and is not recognized by any of the top registries in the world. There is no consensus as to whether breeders should aim to have Labradoodles recognized as a breed. Some breeders prefer to restrict breeding to early generation dogs (i.e. bred from a Poodle and Labrador rather than from two Labradoodles) to maximise genetic diversity, to avoid the inherited health problems that have plagued some dog breeds.
Others are breeding Labradoodle to Labradoodle over successive generations, and trying to establish a new dog breed. These dogs are usually referred to as Multigenerational (abr. Multigen) or Australian Labradoodles.[9] Australian Labradoodles also differ from early generation and Multigenerational Labradoodles in that they may also have other breeds in their ancestry. English and American Cocker Spaniel/Poodle crosses (ie Cockapoos), Two Irish Water Spaniels and Soft-Coated Wheaten Terriers have variously been used in some Australian Labradoodle lines. The Curly Coated Retriever were used too, but these lines did not work out and they were discontinued.[10]
The only way the Labradoodle could be accepted into AKC or England’s Kennel Club The home for dog owners and those working with dogs - The Kennel Club or Austrilia’s National Kennel Club.. Australian National Kennel Council. is through one of these FSS programs. The world kennel clubs have an agreement on acceptance of any new breed and the requirments which is the second way to get into AKC. Now having said this, there are many, many different kinds of registries in the world, same as here in the states (CKD, APRI etc) and so the LaborDoodle could be registered in the same type of registry.

Not sure about your information on Golden Retrievers as they were accepted by AKC in 1925 but following is their history from AKC.

American Kennel Club - Golden Retriever

Golden Retriever History
In the early 1800s game was plentiful in England and Scotland, and hunting was both a sport and a practical way of obtaining food. Retrievers came into prominence because of the desire for a medium-sized dog that would do well in wild-fowling, both waterfowl and upland game. During the 19th century, gamekeepers at the Guisachan estate of Lord Tweedmouth at Inverness-Shire, Scotland, kept records of the development of the Golden.
Lord Tweedmouth bought his first Yellow Retriever in the mid-19th century. The location of Tweedmouth’s estate on the Tweed River had a direct bearing on the program pursued by the Lord to produce the characteristics he desired in his Yellow Retrievers. Along the shores of this river was the light-colored Tweed Water Spaniel, the hardy type of spaniel used for retrieving and known for their intelligence, courage and ability. The Tweed Water Spaniel had tremendous influence on Tweedmouth’s developing breed, as he bred his original stud "Nous" to "Belle," a Tweed Water Spaniel, to produce four yellow puppies. Later on down the line, cross-breedings integrated Irish Setter, Bloodhound, and more Tweed Water Spaniel to obtain the Golden Retriever we recognize today.
Yellow or Golden Retrievers became popular in England toward the end of the 19th century, and they were first shown in England (listed as Golden Flat-Coats) in 1908. In 1913 they obtained separate status when the Golden Retriever Club (of England) formed, and the breed arrived in North America in the 1920s. The first Golden was registered by the AKC in 1925, and the breed flourished in the 1930s and ’40s. Used predominantly as hunters, Goldens proved strong in the show ring also, although unlike today, the darker gold colors were initially favored over the light. Over the years, the Golden Retriever has grown to become one of the most successful, recognizable, and popular breeds in history in all areas.
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