Thank you for all the helpful suggestions. I am going to wait to see the thread on wizdog and see what people think. I know that this makes no sense...but I bought the petco brand again....and they are not shredding them!!! They are still trying to pull them out of the tray a little bit...but no shredding.....they are spoiled and apparently dont like generic pads....GREAT just like my teenager
Thank goodness no more poop smears