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					Originally Posted by Marc  She had a small BM very early hours this morning...that's when she went straight in her box. She had another BM and plenty of pees throughout the day. 
 I would say she is rather large....I am fairly certain there is a min of three in there....potentially a couple more than that though. Right now they are still in a position they were in early this morning which is pretty much three side by side on her front....I say a couple potential more because there is fluttering up by her ribs by her spine. Again, I am new....don't really have anything to compare to. I do see and feel three lumps for sure.
 
 So, she could go all night being calm but in the box? Yeesh...I'm gonna be nervous and feeling for movement often, lol.
 
 Oh, my oldest came in here to talk with her and went to rub her belly....she growled at her. She never does that!
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  She sounds like she's progressing.  
The info I gave you above was only to educate you and keep you informed that sometimes some bitches won't progress to 2nd stage labor, so be vigilant.......there is more to this whelping than meets the eye.  I know, I know.....too much information.