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Old 09-30-2009, 11:30 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by chattiesmom View Post
We learn from reading different views from our own. I love debates -- what I don't like is the condesending tone that some members take because in their opinion they are an "expert" in a certain area. I have read post after post from certain members stating that they are "entitled" to post their opinions and they don't care whether it hurts feelings or not. Each and every member here has valuable information to share -- and we can all learn from each other.

Newbies and oldies alike who find themselves in a crisis situation and ask for help -- they NEED help -- not snide remarks. Whether or not they choose to follow our advice is their perogative, but most people are not willing to listen to criticism when they are reaching out for help. Some people are just ignorant (uneducted) and others are just plain stupid. We can help to educate the ignorant members by gently educating them. BUT why is it necessary to bring YT down to the level of just plain stupid by arguing?

I am always amazed at the patience and fairness of Admin and the Moderators. It is up to each and every member to help combat the rude and abrasive members by ignoring and refusing to engage in arguments and by reporting members and posts using the report button and through pms. Each time we reply to "one of those threads" instead of reporting them we become part of the problem.
Nice way of hitting on both sides of the problem -- if there really is a problem. Usually, I don't perceive a typical difference of opinion as a problem. A little debate is healthy and I hope it never comes to a place where we don't have it. I would probably leave because then learning would stop. But I don't think there is any danger of that!

I know many like the idea of "nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all" -- but there is a problem with that. Many of us (me included) feel there is a danger in overlooking situations that are inherently dangerous to pets that have a right to deserve better treatment. If we allow a situation to be described here on YT and then fail to at least address what is wrong, aren't we giving a tacit approval to the abhorent behavior?

For instance, someone trying to breed a 9 month old girl, a tiny 3 pound girl, breeding with no knowledge and no money, breeding without regard to the safety of the pup, not providing adequate medical care, not practicing safe pet ownership ...what do you do? Ignore it, not post -- I think not. I feel I have a responsibility to say it is wrong -- not to call names, or try to belittle the person but to say the act they are committing is wrong.

In most states, knowing about child abuse and not reporting it is against the law -- as it should be. I think pet abuse should be the same -- we should all speak up when something is not right. At least let the uneducated and those looking into doing it themselves know that it is NOT acceptable. JMO and I respect that everyone may not agree with me. As long as they don't call me mean for pointing out a safety issue, an idiot for having a different opinion, or doubt my "spirit" for questioning a practice, I can deal with their dissent.
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