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wcovey · 09-24-2009, 11:52 AM

People people people, i called akc on this thread, talked to akc customer service, mrs. coburn is NOT suspended..it was a mistake on akc parts, and they re-instated the coburns. Now on this issue with a knee, first of all you do not buy a 9wk old puppy as a breeder, if you do you take on the i hope factor, its i hope the heck this puppy can breed when its older, a puppy should never even be evaluated to be a breeder intil at least the age of 6mths old, and even then who can guarantee that it will grow up to breed?? Raising dogs is a roll of the dice game, and if you breed, then your playing it. You take all the risk involved in breeding living creatures. Second of all, if your puppy and dogs live in the house, get free run, then whos to say the puppy didnt get ran over by a older yorkie, or did he fall? was he dropped? at the grade your stating at his age, if you call the patella foundation, they will tell you if the dog was evaluated at 9wks old by a vet, they would of seen this problem, so did you take the dog to the vet when you returned home?? if so did the vet not see it then, when he check the murmur, because a grade 4-5 at 16 wks old would of been noticable at 9wks old by a vet. Now saying that, if it was not there at 9 wks old, then 99 percent it was done by injury, this is fact stated to me by the patella foundation. Now 3rd why would you even consider taking a puppy that little at that age??? is this ethical?? heck NO!! its not ethical, even if you do breed yorkies, this is not ethical to take a baby that small at that age..sounds to me like a bunch of unethical things happened on both parts, her allowing it, and you doing it! regardless who wrote a letter and you signing it, you both have to take responsibility in this, if the puppy would of stayed and it should have, then when it went to the vet for health cert. to fly, then the leg if it was at the grade you say, would of been noticed by the vet and this incident would of never happened, she would of been able to tell you that it had a heart murmur and bad legs, so before you start going bashing, you have to take FULL responsibility also in this matter because you took a TINY 9 wk old baby, without a full health exam to darn early, and signed a contract stating you would accept full responsibility, i cant say anymore than unethical dealings on both parties!

09-24-2009, 11:52 AM	#30
wcovey YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: murrieta, ca Posts: 9	I researched again.. People people people, i called akc on this thread, talked to akc customer service, mrs. coburn is NOT suspended..it was a mistake on akc parts, and they re-instated the coburns. Now on this issue with a knee, first of all you do not buy a 9wk old puppy as a breeder, if you do you take on the i hope factor, its i hope the heck this puppy can breed when its older, a puppy should never even be evaluated to be a breeder intil at least the age of 6mths old, and even then who can guarantee that it will grow up to breed?? Raising dogs is a roll of the dice game, and if you breed, then your playing it. You take all the risk involved in breeding living creatures. Second of all, if your puppy and dogs live in the house, get free run, then whos to say the puppy didnt get ran over by a older yorkie, or did he fall? was he dropped? at the grade your stating at his age, if you call the patella foundation, they will tell you if the dog was evaluated at 9wks old by a vet, they would of seen this problem, so did you take the dog to the vet when you returned home?? if so did the vet not see it then, when he check the murmur, because a grade 4-5 at 16 wks old would of been noticable at 9wks old by a vet. Now saying that, if it was not there at 9 wks old, then 99 percent it was done by injury, this is fact stated to me by the patella foundation. Now 3rd why would you even consider taking a puppy that little at that age??? is this ethical?? heck NO!! its not ethical, even if you do breed yorkies, this is not ethical to take a baby that small at that age..sounds to me like a bunch of unethical things happened on both parts, her allowing it, and you doing it! regardless who wrote a letter and you signing it, you both have to take responsibility in this, if the puppy would of stayed and it should have, then when it went to the vet for health cert. to fly, then the leg if it was at the grade you say, would of been noticed by the vet and this incident would of never happened, she would of been able to tell you that it had a heart murmur and bad legs, so before you start going bashing, you have to take FULL responsibility also in this matter because you took a TINY 9 wk old baby, without a full health exam to darn early, and signed a contract stating you would accept full responsibility, i cant say anymore than unethical dealings on both parties!